Originally posted by alienreality
Most Athiests I have run into don't just "not believe" They all go on the "attack" against God, whom they claim is some magic old guy up in
the clouds... I mean, why put an identity and a name to something they don't believe in? If they simply don't believe in anything, it sure seems
funny to me that they are always trolling all the religious threads with vehement attacks on people that do believe in a God and an
You are responding in a thread written by a Christian with the sole purpose of attacking atheists. You did miss that did you not? Are you really
suggesting that responding to an attack is actually making the attack? PS, we did not give the Christian god an identity, Christians did, silly. I do
not believe in Santa Claus either but I still know his name when I see a picture or someone asks who the Christmas myth is about. So when a Christian
attacks atheists, how do you suggest we respond and how do you suggest we refer to the god we do not believe in but has been mentioned by name by the
I thought that maybe it was more convenient for me to think that way at one time, because then I didn't need to worry about how badly I lived
That is insane. It frightens me that people think that without a god to punish you, anything you do is ok. Have you no sense of ethics on your own? If
you lose a loved one, do you not mourn? Do you really need a god to remind you that killing someone else's loved one would make them mourn too?
This sounds a lot like the anti-gay preachers who keep getting caught having gay sex. They ALWAYS say they strayed from God. So...the urge to have gay
sex is always there, you just have to stay close to God to keep from acting on it?
So you, the urge to live badly was there until you imagined a sky daddy to whoop ya?
That is until one day when I was taken away in spirit and found myself standing before Christ. He told me that His Father had given me a
place in his kingdom, but that I was not doing my part. I couldn't think of anything to say except That I had no excuse and could do
The same thing happened to me except it was completely different. I was raised properly and have empathy. I also realize that no matter what I would
like, I am part of a society and that in order for my life to be pleasurable, there are certain norms I must adhere to as well as the fact that I have
no evil in my heart so no desire to do harm to innocent people for no reason other than the threat of punishment or promise of reward after punching
Which one of us actually sounds more naturally moral out of the two?
Satan was there and was sneering at me the whole time, he kept saying to Christ that I was useless and wasn't worth the time of
Well, he is a connoisseur and he does not really just want everyone in his house like that Christian god seems to. Then again, why were the three
hanging out together? Did they not realize they were all imaginary?
I became angry at that and laughed at him and said I wasn't afraid of him, and right away He became more menacing and morphed into a more
vicious looking thing.
Cool, describe it. Run up a sketch by chance?
And I looked at Christ and said "oops" my mistake, please help me, and he said "how can you do it?" I said I can do it, I won't forget
So...that made sense.
Then I was back home again... It was very real experience to me and I haven't ever told anyone about it till now...
I would encourage that trend in the future as well. How did you get home? Was it like a flash or does god have a towncar service?
Since then I have always felt that God is always near me..
I hope that helps you.
I manage to not be a bad person without the benefit of a god so does that make me less good?
Some people that may read this that also want to believe, or on the fence about it just might be encouraged about this true story.. It isn't a
joke, and it is not made up.. All it took for me to know for sure that he exists was to never stop searching and seeking him out in the world.. maybe
that is why he came and rescued me.
Well I honestly hope that experience does nothing but benefit you as I can see it doing exactly the opposite. I seem to recall fundamentalist friends
of mine reminding me that Satan had dominion on earth and that visions and prophecies of God, Jesus, etc were really lies by Satan used to trick you.
How are you so sure the one that came to you was not really the lord? Do you think you are smarter than the Satan described by your religion?
The biggest thing I learned from this experience was that humans are very small and fragile and definitely need help most of the time, like
babies. For me, it is good to know there really is a God who loves. You just have to ask and not be afraid to believe.
I agree we are small and fragile. I do not however agree that your god has been much help in that area. He made us small and fragile, gave us free
will, and let us loose on each other.
Basically helping you is the same as claiming to save someone's life by discontinuing strangling them.