Third US carrier, 4,000 Marines augment US armada opposite Iran

When I look at the navy status page it says LHA-4 is assigned to 5th Fleet support. 5th Fleet AOR is the Gulf.

The Truman Carrier Group is nothing to sneeze at either:

The Truman CSG deployed May 21 from its homeport of Norfolk, Va., and includes Carrier Strike Group 10, USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75),

USS Normandy (CG 60),

Destroyer Squadron 26,

USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG 81),

USS Oscar Austin (DDG 79),

USS Ross (DDG 71),

Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 3 and its associated squadrons;

Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 105 “Gunslingers,”

VFA 32 “Swordsmen,”

VFA 37 “Ragin Bulls,”

Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 312 “Checkerboards,”

Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 126 “Seahawks,”

Electronic Attack Squadron (VAQ) 130 “Zappers,”

and Helicopter Antisubmarine Squadron (HS) 7 “Dusty Dogs.”

reply to post by emsed1

nassau has been spending time off the somali coast looking for pirates, those pirates that they brought into norfolk awhile back were held on her.

This may be just a embargo enforcement fleet,in which case Iran will either roll over like the dog it is or it will think it has a chance and bark and snarl to no effect.
If Israel military forces are in any territory of the former soviet union ,Russia has signed off on it.
If Israeli units are in Saudi Arabia ,the kingdom is scared of Iran with nuclear weapons,and has given the go ahead for a attack
Iran has painted itself into a corner right now,if it roll over to avoid a war it cannot win it looks weak and the Iranian government falls,if it fights it is going up against Israel,US,Great Britain and anybody else in the multinational force assembling and it cannot win.
If Iran launches missiles(anti-ship) at any vessel ,that will be the signal for the Israeli attack on the Uranium enrichment facilities and the production reactor.
Then the US and Great Britain will achieve air superiority and destroy any units of the so called Revolutionary guards and will just happen to drop a couple or 20 of those bunker busters on Iranian military centers.
Any ground forces will occupy the missile launching sites.
Having served in the US Navy for 12 years I hope Iran sees the error of its ways but I doubt it,it which case talk no longer is effective and Iran will only get the message thru force(we will not let you get nuclear arms)
By the way this also pulls Chavez's plug since Venezuela would no longer have a middle east ally

reply to post by wfaherty


right ....take Iran aswell.. peace of cake... just as easy of the annexation of irak and afghanistan hihi..there shiffering for the us forces...
and they are getting the Sjah back ofcourse...who did soooo much good for the persian peopple...

you forgott to mention that the whole middle east will be burning then and NK thakes there chances too....



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I'd rather see the Shah's family in charge in Iran that those radical Mullahs!

reply to post by BigDaveJr


yeahh the devil ore the demons... watever....
Iran civillians will be suffering for decades.. after the US cleared it...
after the troops the moneymakers are coming in....:-(

just face it... Irak was taken couse the amounts of MDW...now the same strategie is used to Iran...
afghanistan was taken couse of those poor woman living there and to catch the US mole Osama... hihi




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If this an embargo, or blockade or whatever, do not expect the Iranians to sit back quietly. If someone blocked us shipping and trucking lanes do you think we would not react?

Who are the idiots who think that an economic blockade will stop war? It will actually cause war. The idiots planning this do not know what is going to happen. The strait of Hormuz will be rained down with fire from Iran and incinerate all vessels there. Iran has the home field advantage when it comes to the strait....

This blockade wont work. Like I said you sanction, push, bully, threaten, embargo, blockade, show up at their door with carriers...the Bully will get punched and we will use that excuse to go to war...

Groups in Iran Area include:
USS Harry Truman, Cleared Suez on June 18. (US did not report Israelis but Germans did accompany the group.)

Reported by ATS But Not There:
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (Confirmed by US Navy site that they have returned home from the region. ATS has old intel)
USS Nassau is on humanitarian aid in Haiti.

I didn't check the rest but the map you guys are sourcing and the Debka file seem to have old intel.

Links for you:
USS Nassau:
docs.google.com...:V4mBw1erEFQJ:www.nassau.navy.mil/Gator_Times/Gator%2520Times%2520March%25202010.pdf+LHA4+nassau+2010+mission &hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESh4HTiBUNzFq-TLkayGi-6DPyzaodA7tMXvgeWOObmfXcd1a_t4HMp32JEJx7qPJlJBL54hrvPwdK-4sQ6xPFozeSphhZdPTn6yJDkOiZJVRxxHSzNvxzGb mDQV9WruClAPFJ2A&sig=AHIEtbTv6fP-bv3de0fOKK2Ioe33o5gp1A

Harry S Truman:
www.navy.mil...

Eisenhower:
www.navy.mil...

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According to the Navy website the Truman/Eisenhower turnover is Friday.

Anything current?

From USS Harry S. Truman Public Affairs

USS HARRY S. TRUMAN, At Sea (NNS) -- Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group (CSG) will relieve the Dwight D. Eisenhower CSG as Commander, Task Force 50 July 2, beginning a routine deployment to the U.S. 5th Fleet Area of Responsibility (AOR).

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reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

In The second gulf war US and Great Britain dismantled IRAQ's air defenses in 96 hours,after that cruise missiles and smart penetration bombs took out everything else,the only reason power plants and bridges were left was so the US would not have to rebuilt them after the war.
Air superiority means you can strike when and where you want anytime you want,without air superiority Iran has no chance
As for all that fire (missiles) the sites and launchers are already locked in and targeted for cruise missiles and GPS/LD smart bombs,so if AWACS see one lift off all will be struck.

Originally posted by wfaherty
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

In The second gulf war US and Great Britain dismantled IRAQ's air defenses in 96 hours,after that cruise missiles and smart penetration bombs took out everything else,the only reason power plants and bridges were left was so the US would not have to rebuilt them after the war.
Air superiority means you can strike when and where you want anytime you want,without air superiority Iran has no chance
As for all that fire (missiles) the sites and launchers are already locked in and targeted for cruise missiles and GPS/LD smart bombs,so if AWACS see one lift off all will be struck.

Iraq had outdated equpiment, sanctions blah blah this and that. Did you know in the 91 war the apaches went in to destroy the UHF/VHF radars that iraq had? Why you say why? Well the reason was that they had the ability to detect stealth, but the Iraqis didnt know they had this capability at the time.

If the iranians have learned from history is that stealth does not mean victory. They need to invest in these VHF radars and multistatic radar systems which can detect the f-22 plane.

irans tor systems and pantysir systems defend agaisnt jadams and gps smart bomsbs and cruise missles. They do not have the s-400 system which attacks the f-22 becasuse of sanctions. This is the only reason which is why i belive the us will win, because iran does not have a modern anti-air system. If iran had a modern air defense system, every single f-22 would be fried before it even saw persian belly dancers.

Look at our discussion on this thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by wfaherty
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

In The second gulf war US and Great Britain dismantled IRAQ's air defenses in 96 hours,after that cruise missiles and smart penetration bombs took out everything else,the only reason power plants and bridges were left was so the US would not have to rebuilt them after the war.
Air superiority means you can strike when and where you want anytime you want,without air superiority Iran has no chance
As for all that fire (missiles) the sites and launchers are already locked in and targeted for cruise missiles and GPS/LD smart bombs,so if AWACS see one lift off all will be struck.

Also, once the fist strike hits iran, every single carrier in the strait will be a sitting duck and will be attacked, how do you stop 20 missles attacking a carrier at once? Maybe 30 attacking the same one? I was not talking about Irans air defense, i was talking about the minute that iran takes fire, they will light up the entire straight if they want to. Stay on topic about my commment. I was talking about irans advantage of controllling the strait and the shipping lanes, not its air defense network which is outdated.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL

Originally posted by wfaherty
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

In The second gulf war US and Great Britain dismantled IRAQ's air defenses in 96 hours,after that cruise missiles and smart penetration bombs took out everything else,the only reason power plants and bridges were left was so the US would not have to rebuilt them after the war.
Air superiority means you can strike when and where you want anytime you want,without air superiority Iran has no chance
As for all that fire (missiles) the sites and launchers are already locked in and targeted for cruise missiles and GPS/LD smart bombs,so if AWACS see one lift off all will be struck.

Also, once the fist strike hits Iran, every single carrier in the strait will be a sitting duck and will be attacked, how do you stop 20 missiles attacking a carrier at once? Maybe 30 attacking the same one? I was not talking about Iran's air defense, i was talking about the minute that iran takes fire, they will light up the entire straight if they want to. Stay on topic about my comment. I was talking about iran's advantage of controlling the strait and the shipping lanes, not its air defense network which is outdated.

That's quite simple. B1 and B2 bombers come in one night, and take out all the radar and SAM sites.

Remember, Guam isn't far...

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SAM sites arent required to create havoc in the straight. ALl you need is any type of ground to ground, or air to ground, or antiship missles and lob them at the carrier.

B-2s may be able to hit the SAM sites....what good is that gonna do when all the carriers are under attack...zip nadda..

The USAF Balad Airbase in Iraq is the second busiest airport in the world, second only to Heathrow. Here is a public domain list of US military bases in Iraq:
www.fcnl.org...

The map of the region below shows that the US has plenty of land-based air bases in Iraq from which it could conduct air strikes against Iran. As has been pointed out, carrier battle groups are rotated in and out of the region on a regular basis. Therefore, the presence of carriers does not, in and of itself, argue for or against an imminent military strike.

Balad Air Base to Tehran is approximately 600 miles (965 kliks) in a straight line. This is roughly equidistant from US carriers in the Gulf. Land bases and carriers create the possibility of a 24/7 strike that is fully within the range of all of the aircraft and cruise missiles that would be involved in such a scenario.



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This S-400 system that can supposedly attack F-22 Fighters, aren't they Stealthy?

How can the S-400's see something which isn't there?

Any good links out there people?

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

The Sunburn SS-25 has a range of only 60nm,the longest ranged Anti-ship missiles were the Russian SS-19 and SS16 which had a range of 250 and 300 nm respectively,US Carrier aircraft are trained to defend against them.
So if the Carriers sit more than 300 nm away the Iranians cannot touch them without using aircraft and missiles they do not possess.and as for 20-30 incoming missile what do you think a Aegis Bunker Hill class cruiser (96 sams)does or the Burke class destroyers (61 sams) do??
just sit there??.
Anti ship missiles need a radar or a IR lock to attack a target,back during the cold war the Soviets used to have a Kashin class missile Destroyer follow the Carrier I was on all thru the Med 5-8 nm back,it's job was to turn and run while lobbing 4 nuclear tipped missiles at the carrier if the cold war got hot.

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Wake up and smell the coffee, the queen does not care about the people of this country. Funny how the majority of the people wanted a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty and yet the queen went ahead and signed it anyway, without consulting the British people. So much for being a servant of the people. Off with the traitors head.

www.independent.co.uk...

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


That is precisely right.

Ironically the high-tech features of stealth aircraft that allow them to 'disappear' from modern radar systems make them vulnerable to detection by very simple and legacy technology.

The Brits noticed a while back, by accident, that during an overflight of a B-2 spirit they could see a (for lack of a more descriptive term) 'blackout' in cellular coverage over the areas the plane was flying.

I believe they stumbled across it while examining cell signals by satellite or something...

I may have it all wrong, but it's sort of like the game 'battleship' when you've looked all around the board and there is only a blank area the size and shape of a battleship left on the map.

Why hasn't this been posted on CNN yet?