$7-a-gallon gas?

reply to post by dbates


Least of our problems in this country.
Definately hard on the wallet though and I hope not!

I concur monat78 very much! the only item im aware of on the market that has conversed, is a snack called Sun chips. Their bags have been made of corn making them biodegradable in months time. Dosnt mean thier snacks are any healthier though, but its a terrific idea!
kinda a point i was trying to make, is how healthy are those item made with oil or petroleum, really good for us? Engine oil is fact, is carcinogenic to life* thats a fact. however, thats attributed to the bi products collected and built up int he engine oil, during its usage, aka hydrocabons, sulphur, sulpheric acid, engine exhaust, coolant leaks, things like that. ALL car engine leak oil at one point or burnt it.
Yeah back int e 1920, a car would be like $300 maybe more. however, youde have to look at what the average salary or job pay was back then too. were in the same boat now. the price of life has gone way up. AO that would mean, if gas goes up, so should milk, because its linked to ethanol* anything made with petrolatum or petroleum. the standards of salary/minimum wage would have to go up too then.
BUt we all know, that owuld take forever! it took over a decadde to get the minimum wage up too $7.50 an hour, and was kinda pointless, since the cost of living went up. it just stablized everything, thats all it did. People, esepcially now, need at leat 2 jobs to make any ends meet. NOt everyone, but for those who never went too colledge, wich is millins and millions of people...that is the struggle. working very hard, while wall street people sdtress over who gets the most money wins* or business corporate people.
the system needs to be totlay torn down and rebuilt. ratehr america made* past time to re establich USA as the major issuer of credit, rather the the biggest ower of it

IN my professional opinion, thats what kept costs down, especially on fuel. made in america* no one had to pay a tariff, or tax on importing at least.

reply to post by dbates



Wow, what a great idea from the idiot-in-chief. $7.00 a gallon gas, huh? Everyone ofcourse realises what this will do to food prices too, right? How about our utility bills? Sure glad obama made that promise about not rasing taxes on the middle class.
Though I'm having a hard time seeing how $7.00 gas will in obama's own words, "Plug the damn hole."
If he gets his way, this should add to the list proveing that his main goal is to destroy this country.

Yup, thats what gets me too. obama promises NO NEW taxes. it would appear, he has totaly flat out lied* like every other politician. this man said JFK was his inspiration? whata job he is doing, looking after the american public* save a corporation that made an environmental disaster, screw everyone and everything else.
i persoanlly, dont think its him involved in this. Remember, when he was made president, a few days later, in all newspaper headlines, his face was a white as a ghost? he had a very nervous look on his face. and the meeting he had with george bush junior as well. i think something happened thier, governemnt, CIA, pentagon told him this is how things are gunna work. a threat to him and his family if he didnt act the puppet and do as he is told. thats my beleif.

reply to post by dbates


He told everyone he was going to do this before they voted for him. I wonder how many will pretend they did not know?

We know his agenda is more complex than this. It should be clear by now he is an Ideologue, Progressive who see's himself as above any of the consequences.

Now if he gets most of his agenda, he has to know he can't be reelected. At the same time, it's hard to see him walk away while they undo his mistakes and try to save us. So what goes through his mind at night, that even those closest too him are unaware of? That is why this is the first President in my lifetime to scare me.

Nixon was an ass, Carter was nuts, but Obama? Obama is a programed robot, incapable of adjusting to reality. He might just be willing to destroy America to get his own way. A spoiled Brat in other words. A Brat who's temper tantrums could destroy a country.

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it amuses me that people say "its about time america! maybe you'll start using less. ride a bus!"

america is just about as big as continental europe. we, for the most part, have incredibly crappy public transportation, and none in smaller towns that connect to the bigger towns(at least in my part of wisconsin).

my wife and i have one car, we don't live close enough to where we work to even bike over there due to financial constraints. if gas were to go to 7 dollars a gallon we'd go from mildly comfortable but sometimes strapped for cash to instant poverty barely making enough money to feed ourselves and our child. this is the reality for many americans. face it europe, we're different with different problems, and that's not going to change any time soon.

as an aside, if they made alternative fueled vehicles cheaper with tax breaks it would be quite simple for most of america to switch over. cause honestly i cant afford to pay 20-30 grand for a car that gets 10 more miles per gallon than my escort.

As long as your car runs on gasoline, made formm crude, you will only average 32-40 MPG. the reason is msot of us go through stop nad go traffic, sititng in traffic KILLS your mileage terribly, and it causes carbon buioldup in the combustion chamber, further killing yuor mileage. that is why its a good idea, to replace yuor spark plugs once a year, with the proper ones, not the fnacy platinum 4 elelctrode ones BOSCH makes. car manufacturer recommended only. just re gap n change em, to estabolish at least proper ignition and burning of fuel.
the other thing, for us stop n go trafficers, is to clean out that combustion chamber,..use about 24 to 32 ozs. of hot water, in a spray bottle. turn engine on, and spray into the BSA tube leading too engine block, or you could also spray intu PCV valve tubing to combustion chamber, or even easier, spray into throttle body while reving the intake chord control around 2,000 rpm. spray moderatly till emtpy. do an immediat oil change after. youve sucessfuly cleandd out the combustion chamber, piston tops.
water works that great! it must be distilled water though..regular tap water will cause rust and mineral deposits.
You could get some Gumout regaine, and pour the 12 oz bottle into half a tank of gas, run it, change the plugs n oil too, as an easier remedy. its the 2nd strongest commercialy available known detergent out thier in the auto market, next to 'redline' redline being the bes fuel treatment.
outside of doing that, unless thiers a new fuel/engine..this is how it is.

Originally posted by intrepid
Well that's surely a good way to ignite spastic inflation. Just what America needs right now.

Btw, why do gas companies always have to make a profit? Doesn't a car maker take it on the nose when they screw up? Toyota comes to mind. But NOOOOO let the taxpayer pay for Big Oil's screw ups. :shk:

That wouldn't be inflation...

"Inflation Is Always & Everywhere A Monetary Phenomenon." As far as car makers..I guess you forgot GM....Chrysler. Not saying I agree with it, but c'mon; and BP WILL be taking it on the chin, if they were an American company with union influences it might be different.

Originally posted by TheRedneck
A lot of people are forgetting something very important. Listen real close:

America is not Europe!

Europe is fairly heavily populated. America is sparsely populated outside the cities.

European nations are roughly the size of one state in the USA. We have 50 states.

What does this matter?

I live in Sweden and there are roughly 9 million people here - Roughly the size of a large US city like New York, on an area the size of California.

We are heavily dependant on cars for transportation - especially since its ALOT of countryside - yet we've been paying $6-7 per gallon for many years now.

Of course it could also have something to do with the gas hungry American cars that are the size of a small mobile home...

$7.00 a gallon can not happen.

Many people in California's work-force commute many miles to, and from work.

$7.00 a gallon, in a state where people drive 50 miles a day for a $32,000 a year job would end California's economy in a rather dire fashion.

This can't happen.

So, hopefully, it won't.

Also, what kind of effect is forecast for our nation's truckers according to experts poking a hole in Obama's Global Warming plan? A huge chunk of America's economy is based on truckers transporting goods across the nation.

Last I checked, diesel is ALSO a petroleum product (good luck switching to biodiesel overnight).

$7.00 a gallon simply CAN'T happen.

If it did, ... I don't even want to think about it.

They can jack the price of gas up as high as they want and they know we'll pay it because we need it to travel.

Its sad really that they try to take advantage of society these ways.

Damn leeches.

no offence but its about time americans paid what the rest of the world pays .. $1.40 a litre here however if the US is looking at $7 a gallon what the heck are we gonna be paying

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Wholeheartedly agree. Americans seem full of self-pity while most other Western countries have been paying $7/gallon for years. We pay $7.3/gallon and the prices are not going down anymore. So you can cry a river, but complaining ain't gonna help to stop peak oil, so you better swallow it.

We could have had oil replaced by alternatives a long time ago, but since we are enslaved by corporations there will not be a large scale replacement of oil shortly. Only when the world runs dry of oil and there's no more profit to be made, the oil industry will wrap its tentacles around alternative energies and once again enslave us.

This is poor leadership at its finest.

THINK ABOUT THIS:

If they even spent any of the billions they are spending on all this bailout crap to fund research for the next new battery that would run cars.

Instead its, well lets nosedive the economy and tax the people into not being able to get to work everyday. Make every item they buy so expensive they can't afford anything.

This guy is destroying America.

$7 a gallon gas would be crippling...

Yet at the same time it could force America to rethink the way they do things.

For instance, there is no reason at all I couldn't work from home. My Gas expences would fall to almost zero. Why don't I just do that now? Well the company I work for just cannot break themselves out of the mindset of the way things were done in the past.

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
meanwhile i'm forced to pay taxes that pay lawmakers to make more laws when no one citizen alive today can live long enough to learn all the laws that exist already.

the current political model is leading us where?
has the system capsized? how many lifeboats are left?

Problem solved:

Tax Form Funding Check Boxes:

If you don't support something, don't elect (for yourself) to pay for it! Currently the "elected" Congress / President are completely off the charts funding endless things that if The People had an actual choice they themselves wouldn't fund.

They often say "vote with your pocketbook". I say lets take that concept to the extreme. Imagine if on your IRS form instead of focusing on the check-boxes of 'dependents' you claim, the majority of the ordeal would be a compendium of all of the various things government does, and taxes us for. The form would be more like a book. In the reality of the situation, there would be so much that people would only have time to flip through trying to find things they actually support.

I argue that this alone would solve pretty much everything. In fact, it would almost negate the need for congress critters and the office of the president, especially as we know it.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thats how much we pay for petrol in England!

1 gallon us =3.78 litres

we buy petrol in litres, it's around £1.20 a litre were I am.

so 3.78 x £1.20 = £4.536

converted to us dollars using xe.com

[color=limegreen]6.72507 USD Per US gallon.






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reply to post by justwokeup


Excactly, most people here are assuming they would wake up one morning and the price of gas has doubled. So naive.

It would be phased in over years, giving people the opportunity to change their lifestyle, citys to change their public transport to natural gas, and truck manufacturers to switch over to hybrids.

If you own alot of land and have animals, you should have an exemption from the new fuel taxes. You do need a truck on farm, common sense.

But if you live in Katy, and drive to Houston by yourself in an Expedition, its just wrong. This is the behaviour that needs to be modified.

Taxing gas is like taxing cigarettes. Its sucks, but its better for our collective health in the long run.

Revolution over gas tax? I dont see it. I am a Patriot, and I understand that we have a bitter pill to swallow, but we would be leaner and meaner.

Making everything more efficient would make us BETTER, why revolt against that?

If this protocol were enacted it would give carte blanche to jack up the price of everything.

I have one question?

Do you like for your roof to not leak? Everything is petroleum based when it comes to roofing products. It is designed to keep you coming back. Job security, if it were. That will push the price up further and ensure that the illegals take away jobs and send all their money back home where its cheaper to live.

It seems like our gub is planning a suicide mission for us. Almost makes me wanna cry.