Originally posted by Hellas
Originally posted by Pentothal
Originally posted by Hellas
because that would be against the "free will" he gave mankind.
Would that be the free will that says: love and obey me, meaning; do exactly as my earthly representatives say (and interpret writings) from a
selection of old texts, edited and collated by many different people, each with their own agenda over a period of hundreds of years.
Spend an eternity in pain, misery, burning, torture and tormented in a place called hell.
Yes... free will.
If you wanna live in my House you gotta play by my rules! It's that simple
If you think you can be an "outlaw" you have to pay the price.
So it's your FREE WILL to decide where you want to spend eternity
[edit on 13-6-2010 by Hellas]
So the 'choice' is:
Do as the people who say they are Gods representatives say (the ones who decide what scriptures to teach you from when you are a child)
Suffer unimaginably for eternity.
What a loving caring proposition!
Bare in mind that the information on which you base this decision is and has been controlled, edited and delivered in such a way as to get the desired
Put the money in the bag or I will blow your head off. The choice is yours. If you give me the money, you will not suffer. It is an armed robbery.
So, God created us to love and serve him?
The trouble is, all we have to go on are some very old texts that actually contradict themselves (and plagiarise a story told many times before in
So we are not only presented with this very civilised choice of 'serve or be tortured for infinity', but we are informed about this very important
of choices in the most vague and unreliable way. The message being relayed through a myriad of liars and swindlers (and worse in some cases (see
recent abuse cases)).
Surely the all powerful could at least give us the information required for us to make this most important of decisions in an unambiguous and
verifiable way? But no... We must believe the word of people. Come on!
The fact that an all powerful, ever present, alpha and omega God should require little us to tell him just how great he is and show just how afraid we
are of him (otherwise he will torture and burn and kill all those who do not) seems like a ruse to make people compliant to me.
The concept of servitude actually benefits man. In this case it benefits Gods earthly representatives who are paid good money by followers and told to
keep coming back under threat of eternal torture.
If you think that in all the eternal universe we are here to massage the ego of a character indicated in some
ancient texts, then I do not know
what to say.
Why do the 'scriptures' the the west mostly follow differ from the far eastern philosophies? Did God mean it that way? Did he let us find the
'truth' and let them over there find mere stories? I mean, if that is the case it is down right cruel considering what is at stake.
When the choice provided AND the information on which you base your decision is controlled and delivered to you, there is NO choice involved.
[edit on 13-6-2010 by Pentothal]