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Originally posted by Hellas
Originally posted by Pentothal
Originally posted by Hellas
because that would be against the "free will" he gave mankind.
Would that be the free will that says: love and obey me, meaning; do exactly as my earthly representatives say (and interpret writings) from a selection of old texts, edited and collated by many different people, each with their own agenda over a period of hundreds of years.
Spend an eternity in pain, misery, burning, torture and tormented in a place called hell.
Yes... free will.
If you wanna live in my House you gotta play by my rules! It's that simple
If you think you can be an "outlaw" you have to pay the price.
So it's your FREE WILL to decide where you want to spend eternity
[edit on 13-6-2010 by Hellas]
Originally posted by Arkady
Sigh......I'm not religious but 'why doesn't god intervene' has been done to death and is really quite a naive, poorly thought out 'trump card' that idiots try to throw down on religious people.
If you are actually interested and not just trying to provoke a flame war there are thousands of books on the philosophy behind this question and a great many adequately satisfying answers. Even googling 'why doesn't god intervene' will lead you to a wealth of literature on the subject.
Personally I can't help but notice that the two examples you gave were of babies being killed by man made devices. Arguing from a religious perspective my first question to you would be 'did we have lamp posts or steam pipes before the fall? did god make those objects or did we? HUMANS choose to live in such a way that we are surrounded by dangerous objects, objects that are as flawed as those who designed them and sometimes fail catastrophically. To blaim 'god' for the disastrous failure of our architecture and technology and his 'failure' to intervene is emotionally immature.
Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
We are humans and given 'free will' to choose our own paths with the gift of life. With such freedoms comes individual responsibility - to take care of ourselves as well as others within the guidelines that divine teachers had taught mankind throughout history.
Only robots have no free will, and it is not robots that our Creator, no matter what religion one hails from, wants, for we have a destiny to fulfill, and that is to seed the created empty planets in our Universe. Atheists or freethinkers will know Him in His time, and not in my or any mortal's time.
For example, we had been taught not to drink and drive, yet some still do and would rebel against rules.
Sometimes we get away with, and others will swear merciful divine intervention that prevented accidents happening. Some become bold and believe themselves invincible, continue to irresponsibly drink and drive, resulting in accidents, at times not only fatal to oneself, but to others around him as well.
Such is free will, to be responsible and not mollycoodled, or we will never be able to fulfill our destiny.
Today we have the gulf oil spill disaster. I am sure many had prayed. But there is a lesson of awareness we mankind have to wake up to. Greed had been the cause, and we must all be aware of the harm it had done, or should divine intervention of help come, everyone will only take it for granted and go back to biz as usual.
It will have to run its course, and when we learn from it, help stop the flow and clean up the mess will we be able to move forward. The oil spill is not an extinction level event, despite the fears of many, but only a lesson to be learnt of greed by a few men, just as the financial crisis had been a lesson for us to be aware of as well.
When we find the solution to it, it will lead to our eventual evolution and destiny. If we don't, then we have no right to our destiny which will only pollute other celestial objects as well as cause immense sufferings to future generations of innocent mankind.
Peace, goodwill and blessings to all humanity. It is not the end yet.