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Originally posted by kiwifoot
I am struggling deeply with this, I cannot beleive that there is a God when I see these examples.
Any thoughts ATS?
DISCLAIMER: Please don't let this be interpreted as an anti-religion thread. It's a serious, well intentioned question.
All the best ATS, Kiwi
[edit on 13-6-2010 by kiwifoot]
Originally posted by Village Idiot
Originally posted by The time lord
God works on a global scale, his prime purpose right now is with Israel, those who are against it are with the devil who want to break God's final promise of the end days to the Jews.
How on Earth did Israel creep into this?
So in other words, God is busy with Israel at the moment, no time for anything else?
There lies your answer Kiwifoot, he is too busy with the chosen ones!
The first false god is God himself, that is to say God conceived as the lord and master of creation. That type of God is a human construction, an image of God that has deeply influenced your culture.
You are the center of your universe, the standard and touch stone of your world. There is no God outside of you who knows better or who determines things for you. Not only does the God you formerly projected outside of you, reside in you, this God is not all-knowing either. The divine principle in you and all of creation is a playful force, growing and evolving in open and unpredictable ways.
Doing things wrong, making mistakes, is all right and it may even bring you greater growth than trying to avoid mistakes. In the “bad things” the seed of light is dormant. Only by experiencing the bad from within, can you experience the good as beautiful, pure and true. You cannot learn “from without”. You, God inside of you, has plunged into the deep (into material reality) to become knowing through experience, not to apply knowledge to experience. In that sense, not many things are non-spiritual. All experience is sacred and meaningful. Do not let yourself be guided by outside rules, dictating what is healthy, right and spiritual for you to do. The touch stone is your own heart: if it feels right for you, then it is okay. Let go of anything else
Originally posted by ShadowAngel85
My oppinion: IF there is that God, that religion want us to believe in, then i believe he just doesn't give a # about us.
I mean, if this God created us, he may have come to the conclussion that he did bad work, he #ed up the planet (volcanoes, earthquakes, storms and so son), he #ed up his project "human", because humans are so faulty, it's not even funny and i don't even restrict it to all the violence and wars, just take a look at a human: he get's sick, get all kind of diseases, dies from them, he can't survive under water, basically, we haven't much abilities and aren't capable of much. Even animals aren't that great of an invention.
So i believe, that if that God exists, he has abandoned us, just like people abandon failed projects.
(And that makes him an asshole in my book, if i ever meet god i kick his ass )
In reality there is no god and # just happens.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by blujay
Hey Blujay-really enjoyed what you just posted!
So many want to see God as 'outside' of us, beyond us somewhere...so I have a hard time finding the right words to use that will show 'we are of Thee, and Thee of us'.
I believe, the united part of us, in consciousness, in God....see again, having trouble with words....we were in total knowing of bringing this world into manifestation, with its laws, energy's, the blueprint of duality and cause and affect, the experience that it seems that 'we are lost and know nothing'. We created it like this...is what I think....so the question is....we need to ask ourselves, why did we make such a emanation....or for those that 'needs' God as something separate from them, same question applies.....'why did God make this type of emanation'.
Its much easier for people (me at one time) to think, this world is a mistake, we suffer for something that has been wrongly done, this world is a screw up by someone.
When I started seeing....this world is exactly as it was meant to be....I learn much more about my purpose, others purposes, and Earths purpose for us.
Always my best to you
why does god hate amputeees ?
All is unfolding just as it should.
Originally posted by kiwifoot
Originally posted by Hellas
because that would be against the "free will" he gave mankind.
I was waiting for that mate.
Seriously, if you love someone, are a all powerful God, would allow a young baby to suffer %85 burns and scald to death?
I'm sorry, it doesn't wash.
In fact, that's almost obscene on the face of it.
Luke 13: 10-17
10On a Sabbath Jesus was teaching in one of the synagogues, 11and a woman was there who had been crippled by a spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not straighten up at all. 12When Jesus saw her, he called her forward and said to her, "Woman, you are set free from your infirmity." 13Then he put his hands on her, and immediately she straightened up and praised God.
16Then should not this woman, a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has kept bound for eighteen long years, be set free on the Sabbath day from what bound her?"
4Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish."
2 Peter 3:9
9The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."