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reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 07:42 PM by Phage
reply to post by supyo


Don't lose heart. There aren't many who are taking it seriously.



reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 07:50 PM by Magnivea
I'm not saying anything either way, though it does resemble this video a bit.

The plane video looks the most believable, so that's not really good news for the rest of the photos/videos.


reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 08:17 PM by JakiusFogg
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not



That SUCKS!!

I thought it was Mod driven or at least A HUMAN there inside ATS cherry picking the best and brightest.

if that is true

I am SOOOO disappointed!!

[edit on 22/505/1010 by JakiusFogg]


reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 08:25 PM by ALLis0NE
What a horrible HOAX.

This CGI is amateur. The animation was awful! You can tell they used keyframes to animate this...

After the object curves upwards, it starts to leave a trail of...?...smoke? exhaust? fuel?... you can CLEARLY see this is a normal
particle effect available in multiple rendering software packages. You can even see the settings they used...

You see, with particle effects, you can change the way each particle looks. You actually use any image you want, .jpg, .gif, .png, etc. You can even take a picture of your face, and make each particle a mini face, and emit them from things at different rates, and sizes, and amounts, and colors, etc. Or you can change the particles to images of killer bees, and make a bee swarm. Or puffs of smoke to make an engine exhaust, or fire place smoke.

You can clearly see in the video that the object is using a particle effect that are images of spirals. You can even see the parameters they chose for the particle effect.

It appears they had it set to about 5 particles per second, because as the object moves you can see that about 5 perfect particles were released with perfect timing in between.

You can even tell they are using a type of "smoke" particle effect which gradually increases the size of each particle over time. You can see the rate of the expansion they set.

This effect is in millions of video games, so I wouldn't expect most kids to even think this video is real.

Watch this video, learn it, know it, deny ignorance.



reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 08:26 PM by JakiusFogg
reply to post by bonsaisert



The LH wing of the plane is fine, it is consistent with that of a light regional prop. Maybe a SAAB 340. or the like.

The point of light has a luminosity that is at first glance unnatural, but OK we will go with it.

When the thing goes nova, the flare is such that at the resolution o fthe camera the pixelation can be seen in the gradient of the flare and is inconsistent with the resolution of the main shot.

The human reaction is far to mute to be a real reaction to what is seen, let alone the lack of background noise that you would find on a commercial flight.

The high pitched wistle of the supposed air con noise is synthetic, more akin to a white noise generator on an ipod. on regular flights there is more base and rumble as caused by the airflow and engines.

if this is in dead a light prop then engine noise is missing.

Finally the flare as caused by the explosion is inconsistent with he finall angular view of the debris field that is left behind. not to mention that the dispersal rate is far too fast.

Need I say more!?>???


reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 08:26 PM by defiler
Where are the original images. The author of the pictures says that he got it while on an Evening photoshoot of the city and Venus. Nothing surprising here. Only if they were the original images...




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SW :[Apple ImageIO.framework ] [084 ]
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The first results that have the "fine" compression method are the most probable.

The following IJG-based editors also match this signature:
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Based on the analysis of compression characteristics and EXIF metadata:

ASSESSMENT: Class 1 - Image is processed/edited

If someone has the original images please post them here.
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