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reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 10:32 PM by thomas_
reply to post by jolois



That is called Particle Illusion. It's a simple 2D OGL based software particle system application. It's easily recognizable because the set of emitters used in that video are pretty much standard on the package and haven't been customized that much.

For more info and exampled on Particle Illusion visit:
www.wondertouch.com...



reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 10:48 PM by bonsaisert
reply to post by JakiusFogg



You have answered my questions satisfactorily.

When can we all expect to see this moved to the HOAX section?


reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 11:11 PM by Saytan75
Remember Obama's pledge to spread disinformation?

We must proceed full steam ahead.


Damn, Obama really sucks at video editing then


reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 11:18 PM by xBWOMPx
reply to post by FireMoon



Wow that is so fake! it would have even lit the wing of the plane some what but it still stayed dark. That was soooo CGI!


reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 11:19 PM by wylekat
reply to post by FireMoon





Tell you what, why doesn't someone add their own Photoshopped image to it to really us us idiots how easy it is


Hmmm. Sounds like a challenge to me.


reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 11:26 PM by ALLis0NE
reply to post by FireMoon



This reminds me of a tale called the "Spain UFO" where a user named FlySolo wrote long winded posts, and argued left and right about the videos authenticity, dismissing CGI claims from knowledgeable ATS members, only later to find out that the video was CGI, and a professional production.

It's like deja vu!

Spain UFO posts.

[edit on 22-5-2010 by ALLis0NE]


reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 11:53 PM by Chadwickus
reply to post by FireMoon



You're deluded if you can't see that this is nothing more than a hoax.

Let's have a closer look...

First this video:



* The object takes approximately 36 seconds to appear and disappear

* The spirals and circles are also perfectly formed

* The video was filmed looking west with a bank of clouds way off on the horizon, besides those clouds, the sky is clear

Now look at these two images:



Edit to add an quick animated gif:


(If someone can do a better job, it would be appreciated)

*Besides the 'spiral', they are identical, not even the waves have moved, which is impossible given the time frame calculated above, it's even impossible if we are generous and state the the time difference between these is less than 2 second, the waves should still have moved.

*The clouds in the sky are completely different than what is seen in the video, despite being seen in the same direction at the same time in roughly the same place.

*The spiral is completely different to what is seen in the video, it's a wobbly blob.

The airplane footage:



*Filmed over complete cloud cover, granted the clouds may be clear past the field of view, but the angle and trajectory is similar to the other video, suggesting the plane would have to be closer to where the first video was taken.

Do I need to go on?

Just accept it, it's a hoax!

[edit on 23/5/10 by Chadwickus]


reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 11:59 PM by wylekat
reply to post by wylekat





Tell you what, why doesn't someone add their own Photoshopped image to it to really us us idiots how easy it is


Somewhat over an hour later-



Here's how easy it is.


reply posted on 23-5-2010 @ 12:05 AM by FireMoon
Originally posted by ALLis0NE
reply to
post by FireMoon



This reminds me of a tale called the "Spain UFO" where a user named FlySolo wrote long winded posts, and argued left and right about the videos authenticity, dismissing CGI claims from knowledgeable ATS members, only later to find out that the video was CGI, and a professional production.

It's like deja vu!

Spain UFO posts.

[edit on 22-5-2010 by ALLis0NE]


Apart from the fact i said it looks wholly fake and the first thing that sprung to my mind was "Here we go again, another viral marketing ploy"...Yeah just the same, try t reading what people actually say, rather than, reading what you think people said.

The point i was making was fairly simple. if we are truly seeing something * unknown*, you can't actually judge it by the already established parameters, The Platypus looks fake, even today,, but it exists. I'm willing to bet had their not been photo's and film of the Thylacine taken before their extinction, there would be people today insisting they never existed and that the skeletal remains were all fakes.

Those with any real grasp of Ufology, and not just know it all dilettantes who seem to be determined to show the world how smart they are will tell you that. There are many sightings where people simply could not believe what they saw. In short, the evidence of their own eyes seemed to totally contradict much of what they thought they knew about science and our creation.

There lies the rub with the whole of Ufology. No photograph or video is ever going to constitute absolute proof. Wat's more of there "craft" are nothing more than the materialization of a mental projection by an, as yet understood technique. You are never likely to ever hold the physical proof either,.

From my perspective CGI simply makes the real Ufonauts jobs that much easier. They know full well, no matter how good a footage anyone takes, it is likely that, At least 50% of people are simply going to say. "It's a hoax". We are, in effect, doing their stealth work for them. Again , if you study Ufology in depth, that much would be obvious.

The truth is, those who nail their colours to the mast of, we have to have proof of a physical and tangible sort, are likely to be forever disappointed, whether they believe or not.


reply posted on 23-5-2010 @ 12:13 AM by FireMoon
reply to post by SpectreDC



Brilliant that, a static picture not a video and to be brutally honest, me with my total lack of photshop skills could, probably, have knocked that out in minutes. . Now show us what was actually asked, a recreation, exactly, of the videos. I don't doubt it can be done, only a fool would, but umpteen posts simply saying that, are just a total waste of bandwidth telling people what they already know.

Then, i guess, the world is full of people who, for some reason, feel the need to point out to a person. "Did you know you have a huge pustular zit on your nose?", as if they didn't already know.
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