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Originally posted by ker2010
So stop calling logical people racists who know its not feasible to save everyone by allowing them in. And also knows it would be unfair to the ones who didnt get in if we just allow a bunch of certain people in cause they are bordered with us. Its not racism its realism!
If you give the people who broke the law amnesty you must give it to all who want to come or your own favorite word racist applys to you!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by staple
Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented student"is like calling a drug dealer an Unlicensed Pharmacist?
When she turned 18 she should have made right on her immigration status. What blows me away is how long she stayed in the country illegally.
That is part of the reason these threads go south pretty quick. You assume she could have made her immigration status right at age eighteen. The law may not have given her the chance to do so and even if it did she may have been ignorant to the fact.
I'm not saying this should leave her off the hook but at least it should help you understand why she did what she did.
She was ordered deported after finishing her studies. How is this not being held acoountable for her accions?
Originally posted by staple
"Go south" sounds like a good idea to me. Breaking the law is still breaking the law. Being ignorant of the law is not an excuse. She broke immigration laws, motor vehicle laws, etc. Unless she was paying her taxes(doubtful) she was a drain on the system you and I pay for.
I hate to see bad things happen to good people but at least she was not popping out children to get gov. handouts.
The school system failed in this case to obtain legal documentation.
If she stays to finish school, then that is more than enough leeway. Even if she is deported she can attend collage in Mexico. Playing the poor me card is unacceptable.
Being good in intention does not always make a person right in action and here we find the crux of the problem with illegal immigration in general.
The law is the cornerstone of our America and if one wishes to be American, one cannot hope to ever do so by starting off with the flagrant disregard of the one thing Americans jointly hold sacred. But, again, hopes and dreams are powerful motivators and I can find no fault with the intentions of a good family to provide the best for their children.
Originally posted by space cadet
but she was in college, a political science major.
Really? Let me make a prediction.
She will be allowed to come back and get her citizenship.
She will then act as a community organizer for the newly amnestied hispanic population. In 25-30 years, she will run and be elected president of the North American Union.
edit to add: the second article here states she
did not recieve any finacial aid, not even a hope
grant. She paid cash for school.
Izarith, you keep speaking of an open door, right? And it`s our governments fault for it, right? Then why rip these people for it and not the government? Is it because you believe it`s the peoples fault for letting the government get away with it? If that is the case, one could say the same thing about the people that are still in Mexico, correct? Are they not letting their government get away with many things that they don`t like?
As for that open door, and it being nothing but a temptation, do the Mexican people understand right from wrong? You would like us to get our government in line, right? You should say the same thing about your government also. Even though that door may be open somewhat, does that still give the Mexican people the right to come here illegally? Yes, ALL people should have the right to an education, and a good job, and our country was open to all that wanted to come here LEGALLY to find it.
Both sides of my family were German and Dutch. Both sides came here, because they wanted their children to grow up as free people back in the 1840s. And they did it legally. Not once did they ever feel the need to fly a German, or Dutch flag. Why? Because they wanted to be Americans and they felt a great pride for a country that allowed them and millions of others to better themselves. That is why some of them fought and died for this country and flag. Even when Germany called for them to return to the father land, they thumbed the noses at Germany and fought in the American Army.
That same door was open then, and my family walked through it legally, the same as your fellow countrymen should do.
I agree about our companies. They should be shut down long enough to clean house of those who are allowing it to take place, then restructured and reopened. As for the German people being slammed back then, yes they were, but it`s funny, that the ones doing the slamming, their families were from other countries as well. Shows how ignorant some people can be. My family knew there would be some who wouldn`t understand them, but they stood fast and came through.
Well, I have a feeling, at the speed that this government works, that this economy will fall apart first before the government does anything about the hiring practises of these companies. It`s sad, but true.