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Is Glenn Beck "uncovering" the "Conspiracy" of the Millenium?

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posted on May, 17 2010 @ 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by SourGrapes

Originally posted by tha stillz
So did Glenn Beck finally get around to watching "Fall of the Republic" by Alex Jones? This conspiracy has been unraveling way before Glenn Beck...


While I think that AJ is right in some of his connections and theories, he is certainly off in quite a bit of it. So, its not necessarily the same 'end game' as what AJ has theorized.

Much like AJ, Glenn has grouped players together, that aren't 'together'. Glenn's has often linked people together and has often said 'they' are playing the same game. I think he may be changing his tune (at least I hope) a bit. He's starting to realize that we have two very different sides at play. I can't say for sure, as I haven't watched Glenn in over a month, but from what's been posted and from what I hear others saying.


Agreed on AJ, but less so on Beck. Of course some of his associations mean nothing, but he is putting the pieces together better than most have done to date.

I think, in my opinion, that there are many sides who play off each other when convenient to their agenda or when there is money to be made. There is not a small cabal trying to rule the world, there are many groups. There are rich globalists, political globalists, environmental globalists, marxist globalists, etc, etc, and they are all in charge of something right now, its the perfect globalist storm we are facing.




posted on May, 17 2010 @ 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by I_am_Spartacus
 


Spartacus, you may have to restart your topic tomorrow, this one is outta control.



It seems most threads do here at ATS, thus my very infrequent visitations. .

Way too many Jeff Albertsons aka "Fat Comic Book Guy" from the Simpsons here.

en.wikipedia.org...



Self proclaimed geniuses who's worlds views are shaped by Comic books, World Of Warcraft, Comedy Central and SNL, and delusional about their intelligence to the point that they think others who don't "think" like them are drooling idiots Stereotypical know it all teenagers x 10


It is a product of the way kids are raised nowadays, they are all told they are brilliant by their mommies, they all get trophies just for participating, they get A's for "effort", etc, etc.

It breeds snotty, self un-unaware misfits who cannot step outside of their own image they see in the mirror or the thoughts in their "brilliant" minds.

obama is a perfect example of this mentality

[edit on 17-5-2010 by I_am_Spartacus]



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by tha stillz
So did Glenn Beck finally get around to watching "Fall of the Republic" by Alex Jones? This conspiracy has been unraveling way before Glenn Beck...


Yes, that is true to a point, I do NOT like the way Glenn SOMETIMES takes credit, by lack of omission of other researchers, of such ideas and info, he makes those who don't know better think he is the genius investigator .........

BUT he is doing a better job of putting the pieces together than AJ, and he doesn't buy into the same exaggerated (IMO) theories that AJ gets into like "chemtrails" etc. AJ tends to take bits of truth and run with them, much more so than Beck.

Do I think at some point some kind of spraying in the atmosphere has been done for whatever reason?, most likely yes. Are the all day everyday, contrails in the sky part of an ongoing plan to depopulate the earth or whatever, most certainly not. Was SOME truth being hidden in regards to 9/11?, probably. Was the attack coordinated by Bush and crew, highly doubtful. (again though, my opinion.)

The same people who think Bush can't tie his shoes and chew gum at the same time do an about face and claim he and his cronies could pull off a complicated false flag attack. The reasoning is contradictory and fuzzy at best.

[edit on 17-5-2010 by I_am_Spartacus]



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 09:28 AM
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Someone else who argues for the criminal/wall street aspect of the Cap &Trade/Carbon exchange/obama connection.

www.baltimorechronicle.com...



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
Self proclaimed geniuses who's worlds views are shaped by Comic books, World Of Warcraft, Comedy Central and SNL, and delusional about their intelligence to the point that they think others who don't "think" like them are drooling idiots Stereotypical know it all teenagers x 10

It is a product of the way kids are raised nowadays, they are all told they are brilliant by their mommies, they all get trophies just for participating, they get A's for "effort", etc, etc.

It breeds snotty, self un-unaware misfits who cannot step outside of their own image they see in the mirror or the thoughts in their "brilliant" minds.

obama is a perfect example of this mentality


Wow, generalize much? I am 54 years old btw. I own my own business, never got a dime from my folks, paid off all my student loans from college which I worked my way through (no scholarships) and NEVER received any Gov subsidies / loans / funding. I pay taxes (tangible, property and capital gains) workmans comp (although I have no employees) and local municipal taxes although I never had any kids in school.

Although I was never called to serve in the Armed Forces, I did have a Draft card and was ready to do so if called upon. (late father, retired military)

So kindly consider the diverse mix of opinion on this forum by posters and resist the urge to make false wholesale judgements of others simply because they happen to disagree with you. Admittedly I voted for Obama, as I feel he was the right choice vs. given opponent.

How wrong can you possibly be? :shk:


[edit on 17-5-2010 by kinda kurious]



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
Someone else who argues for the criminal/wall street aspect of the Cap &Trade/Carbon exchange/obama connection.

www.baltimorechronicle.com...


Very surprised a newspaper actually printed something criticizing the government in it's entirety.


We're all getting f'd by the entire government, left to right, and everyone in between is there for their own benefit, not the people they where elected to serve.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by Dbriefed
Seems like this thread is full of government shills trying to discredit any possible negative info about the 'bama government or the 'bama cult of personality.





That would be my guess.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
Self proclaimed geniuses who's worlds views are shaped by Comic books, World Of Warcraft, Comedy Central and SNL, and delusional about their intelligence to the point that they think others who don't "think" like them are drooling idiots Stereotypical know it all teenagers x 10

It is a product of the way kids are raised nowadays, they are all told they are brilliant by their mommies, they all get trophies just for participating, they get A's for "effort", etc, etc.

It breeds snotty, self un-unaware misfits who cannot step outside of their own image they see in the mirror or the thoughts in their "brilliant" minds.

obama is a perfect example of this mentality


Wow, generalize much? I am 54 years old btw. I own my own business, never got a dime from my folks, paid off all my student loans from college which I worked my way through (no scholarships) and NEVER received any Gov subsidies / loans / funding. I pay taxes (tangible, property and capital gains) workmans comp (although I have no employees) and local municipal taxes although I never had any kids in school.

Although I was never called to serve in the Armed Forces, I did have a Draft card and was ready to do so. (late father, retired military)

So kindly consider the diverse mix of opinion on this forum by posters and resist the urge to make false wholesale judgements of others simply because they happen to disagree with you. Admittedly I voted for Obama, as I feel he was the right choice vs. given opponents.

How wrong can you possibly be?

[edit on 17-5-2010 by kinda kurious]


I wasn't saying the teenage attitude could only be applied to those under 20. It appears, if you are admitting /defending your inclination to insult differing opinions, you fit the Jeff Albertson profile perfectly, a snotty 50 something, self proclaimed genius.

If you are one of those who come on here calling those who don't agree with you idiots then wheres the beef?. I have no problem with those who don't agree with me, just not those who use insults to try and bolster their points.

There is a not so fine line between what I stated and what people like you come here to do. I am only calling such people "idiots" precisely because that is what they do to others, not because they have differing opinions. If you respect mine, I will yours, trying to change anothers opinions with evidence and/or your own well reasoned opinion is MUCH different that trying to do it with insults.





[edit on 17-5-2010 by I_am_Spartacus]



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 09:48 AM
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he might be giving good information but I think he is an inflitrator, the "truth" movement has become big and the status quo had no share in it, so now they have a chance.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
You are one of those who come on here calling those who don't agree with you idiots. I have no problem with those who don't agree with me, just not those who use insults to try and bolster their points.


Here is a link to ALL of my posts on this thread:

KK thread posts

Please point out where I "called someone an idiot" and I will gladly refrain from future posts on this thread. Otherwise, retract your accusation.

Deal?

[edit on 17-5-2010 by kinda kurious]



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
You are one of those who come on here calling those who don't agree with you idiots. I have no problem with those who don't agree with me, just not those who use insults to try and bolster their points.


Here is a link to ALL of my posts on this thread:

KK thread posts

Please point out where I "called someone an idiot" and I will gladly refrain from future posts on this thread. Otherwise, retract your accusation.

Deal?

[edit on 17-5-2010 by kinda kurious]


You apparently were taking my post out of context, and by thinking I was implying something I wasn't, appeared to be implicating yourself in the context that you mistook. Reread the original comment I replied to which you took offense to and you will see what I mean.

My post was in response to stormdancer commenting on the vitriol against Beck and anyone who may agree with him in part or whole. I was simply conveying where the smug attitudes come from. By taking me on for that, it appeared to be an admission of "guilt" to being one of those with said attitudes.

Notice I said, "It appears, IF you are defending/admitting your inclination to insult..............."

No I did not read your posts to surmise if you were one of those people, your response to take offense seemed a self indictment.

If you have not been combative and insulting, I apologize for assuming you understood my comments and for assuming you were defending the attitudes which I was rallying against.



More of why this place is usually not worth getting involved, too much off topic, out of context, self indulgent bickering.



[edit on 17-5-2010 by I_am_Spartacus]



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
If you have not been combative and insulting, I apologize for assuming you understood my comments and for assuming you were defending the attitudes which I was rallying against.


Thanks I'll accept that on its qualified merits. While I might skirt under the T&C and unapologetically exhibit "combativeness," it seems that is the very nature here. i.e. Foe vs. Friend, Stars, Flags etc. There are typically two distinct sides in each "battle" but seemingly few winners. I will say that although rarely my opinions have been swayed it has happened on occasion if an "adversary" presents a compelling argument or proof of claims.

Surely hostile at times, but enjoyable nonetheless. I've been here over 3 years but not a popularity (S&F) seeker. Sorry to ramble, retraction accepted. Refreshing but rare.






[edit on 17-5-2010 by kinda kurious]



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
retraction accepted. Refreshing but rare.






[edit on 17-5-2010 by kinda kurious]


If you want to see it as a retraction because it makes you feel better then ok. Rare? apparently........



[edit on 17-5-2010 by I_am_Spartacus]



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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What I like best about Glenn Beck is he uncovers the truth in a different light. He exploits the NWO agenda through progressivism and other ways, different than just the typical facts that most truthers just shove in your face.

I'm happy that he's finally hitting on the big picture for once. Sometimes the way he exhibits his strong views do jeopardize his authenticism for looking at issues from all sides. Regardless of the other side's authenticity, it still needs to be presented to the viewer.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by davidmann
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Very well put. Yeah...I can't wait till we get a republican in there lol!

It is possible that it was meant in sarcasm...but odds are against it!



I was definitely being sarcastic.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by INQUISITION11
I think Beck comes up with some interesting information though it's all about Democrats in these vids he's not exposing the Republican globalists who are just as involved. Bush never protected the border because he wants a North American Union.Beck is just steering people to vote republican he is giving half the story.


THANK YOU! This is what I've been trying to say in too many words, obviously. If you really think Glenn Beck is a bringer of truth then why doesn't he expose EVERYONE, not just the democrat/liberal/socialist/commie's? Where was he when Bush was destroying our country and being a puppet for "them"?

Some are accusing people like me of ad hominem attacks and ignoring the fact that he tells the truth; however, it's hard to praise someone who is blatantly ignoring that there are MANY, MANY others who are all for destroying the American way of life and they aren't all democrats. If someone deserves to be praised for telling the truth that so many dare not do, then isn't it perfectly logical to EXPECT that person tells the WHOLE truth and not just the truth that gets republicans votes?

Because Glenn Beck isn't telling the whole truth he puts us all at risk of getting someone equally caught up in the web of lies, corruption, and deceit the next time around. We don't need a republican. We don't need a democrat. Quite honestly we need someone who goes completely against BOTH ideologies and we aren't going to get that person as long as people like Glenn Beck lead people to believe that there is only one side of the political spectrum we should fear and one side we should vehemently support in every thing they do.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Frith
True. Glenn might be uncovering something. Or, far more likely, he is talking out his ass and pushing the buttons of gullible fools who already have terminal cases of Obama Derangement Syndrome that will believe anything he or other conservative pundits say. Present company excluded, of course.


The only way I will believe this conspiracy exists is when Glenn Beck makes random scribblings on a chalkboard that somehow connects it to Stalin, Hitler and Obama.





posted on May, 17 2010 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by tylermbell
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i have a hard time with beck. i'm heavily against him for his actions of countering and having nothing to give back, but a lot to take away. i haven't heard anything from him that has any information to back it up, if someone who has been following him has anything i'd definitely like to reconsider my views on him.

but alas, as i have done a good deal of study on him, he seems like nothing more but a crazy, and not a conspiracy theorist. i find him racist, full of hate, sexist, homophobic, and against anyone who is against the rich...

but if someone can change those thoughts, please do.

I take the stance that many here at ATS have taken in the past. Research is a job that is best done by yourself. How much in depth information can anyone impart in a one hour program> When there are so many bases to cover ? Research Maurice Strong,the CCX stock holders and Emerald Cities and see if all those connections make perfect sense to you.Some conspiracies aren't just theroy.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 01:55 PM
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“Get God on your side, and then pick up a hammer. With nonviolence, take your hammer and pound that truth every day, and everything that doesn’t fit, toss it out! We have the truth . . . With nonviolence, be the anvil of truth every single day!”
-Glenn Beck

Glenn Beck wants you to be an anvil...and to beat yourself with a hammer. It's the only way you can become as "rational" as he is.




posted on May, 17 2010 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by mothershipzeta
“Get God on your side, and then pick up a hammer. With nonviolence, take your hammer and pound that truth every day, and everything that doesn’t fit, toss it out! We have the truth . . . With nonviolence, be the anvil of truth every single day!”
-Glenn Beck

Glenn Beck wants you to be an anvil...and to beat yourself with a hammer. It's the only way you can become as "rational" as he is.



You're aware that quote wasn't made by Glenn Beck, right?

The quote comes from Ghandi.

I find it rather ironic you're talking about rationalism when you can't research what you are criticizing.



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