Is Glenn Beck "uncovering" the "Conspiracy" of the Millenium?

I think the reaction of "certain people" about it being reference by Beck should be a good indicator that they don't like the story on Maurice Strong, but are just connecting Beck as a pre-disposition (if you buy into it). Their reaction has nothing to do with Beck.

I also thought the near-instant reference to Alex Jones was kinda funny. Now we're having a gatekeeper party, yay.

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Outside "the box"... was this story introduced at the decidedly Beck angle on purpose to dilute it by connecting (insert pre-disposition here) to it? The poster baits the post saying "let's not make this about Beck" when... LOOK AT THE TOPIC TITLE, and the bulk of the original post.

Did you buy into it? Deny ignorance. Search for Maurice Strong, contribute research, post your findings in an honest topic...

Decide if it's a waste of your time spent on psyop topics like this one.

You could tell who the librals are in this thread. They are all so thick headed and controlled by their media that they can't look past their own noses.

As it has said a number of times "LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE" these people are so ignarant they are dumb...scary!

It certainly explains why things are going down hill so fast, just think, its all these morons that elected the other morons.

Originally posted by Victoria 1
You could tell who the librals are in this thread. They are all so thick headed and controlled by their media that they can't look past their own noses.

As it has said a number of times "LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE" these people are so ignarant they are dumb...scary!

It certainly explains why things are going down hill so fast, just think, its all these morons that elected the other morons.

Yeah, I've looked at the evidence and it proves the OPPOSITE of what the OP is saying. It proves that Beck is essentially a disinformation agent who has no f***ing idea what he's talking about.

DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU TELL OTHER PEOPLE TO.

Originally posted by TheUnCola
I think the reaction of "certain people" about it being reference by Beck should be a good indicator that they don't like the story on Maurice Strong, but are just connecting Beck as a pre-disposition (if you buy into it). Their reaction has nothing to do with Beck.

I also thought the near-instant reference to Alex Jones was kinda funny. Now we're having a gatekeeper party, yay.

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Outside "the box"... was this story introduced at the decidedly Beck angle on purpose to dilute it by connecting (insert pre-disposition here) to it? The poster baits the post saying "let's not make this about Beck" when... LOOK AT THE TOPIC TITLE, and the bulk of the original post.

Did you buy into it? Deny ignorance. Search for Maurice Strong, contribute research, post your findings in an honest topic...

Decide if it's a waste of your time spent on psyop topics like this one.

Darn, my cover is blown!! Yes I am a psyops agent sent here by TPTB with disinformation about disinformation on real information about disinformation and am using Beck to discredit the original disinformation, but you will never take me alive.....MUHAHAHAHAHA!!

This is getting ridiculous!!! Some of your imaginations/thought energies need to be put to better use or at least used to make yourselves some money.







[edit on 19-5-2010 by I_am_Spartacus]

Becks latest update on this "situation"

Team Oversight's Jason Chaffetz on Investigation of Government Mortgage Giant's...Carbon Patents?

www.youtube.com...

Beck works for FOX which should supposedly have the resources to find this stuff out before AJ but doesn't. Then Beck rips off AJ daily and turns AJ's information into his own shtick, and it's better because he delivers it so jellyfish can stand to hear it?!

AJ is yelling at me again....................RUN FOR THE HILLS!

Peace

[edit on 19-5-2010 by Dr Love]

Originally posted by Dr Love
Beck works for FOX which should supposedly have the resources to find this stuff out before AJ but doesn't. Then Beck rips off AJ daily and turns the information into his own shtick, and it's better because he delivers it so jellyfish can stand to hear it?!

AJ is yelling at me again....................RUN FOR THE HILLS!

Peace

I will give you that, and have already said it, Beck does take undo credit and makes claims like"I am the only one giving you this info" It bothers me also, I NEVER claimed he was perfect/innocent nor 100% honest. The difference is Beck is mainstream and has the forum to get this info out to more people, and does not get as outlandish in his claims as AJ can get.

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
.....I NEVER claimed he was perfect/innocent nor 100% honest.

Seems like an unlikely source to get credible information from then.

What percentage honest is he?

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
.....I NEVER claimed he was perfect/innocent nor 100% honest.

Seems like an unlikely source to get credible information from then.

What percentage honest is he?

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

You know, the polarization in thought in this thread is nonsensical. It's either Beck is the devil or Beck is our savior. You know I must be the only one who thinks Beck is a man.

This conspiracy theory has existed for a while and as mentioned there is credible reasons to suspect something is going on and Beck is revealing something truthful.

Likewise...it's MSM. If they are reporting something, it is for a reason. Maybe it is money. Maybe it is to demonize the topic. Maybe it is to set people up for something in the future. Hell, there is a minute possibility that Beck is revealing this TO reveal the truth.

I don't understand why no one is discussing what should be discussed here, which is WHY. WHY is the MSM reporting something that it would typically denounce and ignore? WHY is the MSM reporting something that can cause an uproar? WHY is Beck the one revealing this?

Let us ignore Beck, and deal with what is the issue. WHY?

And before someone says it, yes Fox News is MSM. Yes, Beck is mainstream. To think otherwise likely means you think Beck is the messiah.

[edit on 19-5-2010 by SpectreDC]

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Chamberf=6

 

Let the Beck thing go, just look at the evidence.

That's how these arguments always go, attack the messenger, forget the message. TPTB have done a very good job training people at this skill.

Its not even worth trying to get them to at least look at the evidence, it can only be presented and those who are willing, will see the truth, whatever that ends up being.

Okay, but when the message is just as pointless and unfaithful as the messenger...then attacking one is the same as the other.

You have to question the rhetoric that someone like Glen Beck buys into. He may not have created this thoughtless mess of mind-numb morons clinging to these idiot ideals...but he buys into it.

If he buys into it - i question it.

Glen Beck is an idiot.

Therefore, I avoid anything he clings to.

Its that easy ...

Originally posted by SpectreDC

Glenn Beck

Stopped reading there. I don't mind Beck, but he is a shill. He works for corporate media. I'll take any sort of "conspiracy" Beck finds with a grain of salt.

Maybe his deal with TPTB ( media portion of them ) is that if he reveals any info he has to do it in a crazy way so as to make people not believe him or to be so annoying or douchey or off-putting that even if he is 100% correct sometimes, nobody will take him seriously..

That is his " deal with the devil " ...and he makes bank doing it too....

I think he is a tool.....but sometimes he says stuff that is correct, but when it is, he does it soooooooo overboard that even I laugh... ( the 3 times I watched him ) ..

Can't stand him really though....but I doubt 100% of everything he said is BS.......

Originally posted by SpectreDC

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
.....I NEVER claimed he was perfect/innocent nor 100% honest.

Seems like an unlikely source to get credible information from then.

What percentage honest is he?

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

You know, the polarization in thought in this thread is nonsensical. It's either Beck is the devil or Beck is our savior. You know I must be the only one who thinks Beck is a man.

This conspiracy theory has existed for a while and as mentioned there is credible reasons to suspect something is going on and Beck is revealing something truthful.

Likewise...it's MSM. If they are reporting something, it is for a reason. Maybe it is money. Maybe it is to demonize the topic. Maybe it is to set people up for something in the future. Hell, there is a minute possibility that Beck is revealing this TO reveal the truth.

I don't understand why no one is discussing what should be discussed here, which is WHY. WHY is the MSM reporting something that it would typically denounce and ignore? WHY is the MSM reporting something that can cause an uproar? WHY is Beck the one revealing this?

Let us ignore Beck, and deal with what is the issue. WHY?

And before someone says it, yes Fox News is MSM. Yes, Beck is mainstream. To think otherwise likely means you think Beck is the messiah.

[edit on 19-5-2010 by SpectreDC]

My theory is that he's sort of an extreme and perhaps last-ditch effort by the mainstream right-wing (i.e. Republicans, Neo-cons, and other assorted establishment conservative Capitalists) to seize on the growing power of conspiracy theory to whip almost-ex-Republicans back into a fervor and back to the party. We can see that over the past few years the Republican party has shown a great possibility of sinking and never quite recovering. There is a LOTTTTT of power and money to be lost for the Republican good ol' boys if they crash and burn (which I sincerely hope they do).

We must look a the big picture, and the big picture shows us that- for better or worse, MORE people are attuned to MORE conspiracy theories than at any time in recent history. Alex Jones has garnered a huge and wide audience spanning the entire political spectrum (me included at one point... though I ALWAYS took him with a grain of salt/humor). Beck is obviously seizing on some of the styles/momentum of Alex Jones and the like. So name your motivator... Beck has obviously gained a flood of viewers... this makes money for Fox and most importantly Rupert Murdoch. He's openly admitted that he filters Fox News to support his agenda, and that objectivity is not really the object. If it sells (and Beck's like hot-cakes for Fox) then it stays on the air regardless of its merit. Essentially a tragically hilarious spectacle of capitalism at work protecting itself!

The reality is, it doesn't matter whether Beck believes his own filth or not, he's wrong in many of his facts, assumptions, history, connections, and solutions. He's very expedient, flighty, and extremely quick to jump to asinine conclusions. He's seizing on legitimate discontent for the system and perverting it down a certain path... like you or someone else said- setting people up for a certain future. Who knows what the plan is or if it will fail, but there is an obvious agenda and when you consider that Beck is a multi-millionaire who is part of an organization which partially prides itself on being a cheerleader for the rich, you can kinda connect some dots. We all know that Communism is bad just as we know that Nazism is bad. However, Beck seems to be going red-scare McCarthyite on us in a whacked out modern form. Government omnipotence is TERRIBLE (I'm an Anarchist so believe me when I say it). However, so is MARKET omnipotence, namely the kind we have seen grow from capitalism, globalization, vastly centralized markets/economies, industrialization, and so on. We are a relatively unregulated country with a very very cushy platform for multinational corporations (who have now essentially become immortal but with the rights of personhood). They more/less control our government, world markets/economies, the flow of products, competition, you name it. With Obama, they see a SLIGHTLY higher risk of government regulation of large businesses (and not necessarily smaller ones to such an extent). Now all of a sudden there's this anti "socialism" and "socialism is communism is Nazism" campaign. Very interesting how that worked out... But from where I'm sitting, as long as such entities exist I want the government to regulate the HELL out of them to protect me and most other Americans, citizens of other countries, and the environment. Though as I've said, I'm an Anarchist, and I want to see both pillars of civilization (governments/markets) crumble under their own oppressive weight (to put it in a nutshell).

My conclusion- you have a genuine case of the rich stealing legitimate activism/resistance/language which once belonged to/worked for the grassroots REAL activists and working class. This is an effort, of course, to stave off any kind of substantial resistance (with a multi-faceted defense/offense/propaganda campaign) to their wealth/power. It doesn't even have to be a behind-the-scenes, shadowy conspiracy, it just has to at least be an unconscious reaction by the rich to challenges to their hegemony. They MUST convince themselves of their own lifestyles and of the system(s) which allowed them to become rich and powerful. That's essentially the catch of becoming rich/powerful, you must then BELIEVE in the product of the system, if you cease to believe then your power/influence and perhaps wealth will fall apart, and this is not an easy/likely decision for most of those people, especially if they're not very principled, ethical, or radical in their beliefs/behavior.

It seems I'm giving Beck way too much credit as a player in this game... and I don't really mean to. But it's one of the latest parts in the larger story of our constant battle for the 'right' facts and the 'right' worldviews; and in such a market of ideas there is always an abundance of deception, both intentional and unintentional.

Hope that made sense.

[edit on 20-5-2010 by NoHierarchy]

Thank you, OP, for posting this. I don't often get a chance to tune into Glen Beck and after watching the YouTube video, I came away feeling that he was on to something here.

Yesterday, a local radio pundit was reading an article on air that a national columnist had written (forgot the writer's name) but he was talking about the fact that Global Warming has become a new religion that the faithful must follow no matter what the facts are. His assertion is that Global Warming is nothing more than a euphemism for redistribution of wealth from the rich, developed nations to jealous dictatorships who refuse to allow their citizens the right to gain their own wealth through free markets.

There are all kinds of messengers in the world. A lot of people may not like Beck, but it doesn't kill the message itself. I think we should all feel relieved that more and more messengers are stepping up into the spotlight of various mediums and delivering the message. There was a time when even the word "conspiracy" was hard to overcome. But now the message is being delivered in Prime Time. No one (even those who despise Beck) should underestimate the importance of this.

Just wanted to let you know your post was an important one. Only the ignorant would think otherwise.

Originally posted by MRuss
Yesterday, a local radio pundit was reading an article on air that a national columnist had written (forgot the writer's name) but he was talking about the fact that Global Warming has become a new religion that the faithful must follow no matter what the facts are.

While I respect your right to express your opinion, passing on conjecture (hearsay) without any credible links/sources does not pass muster for my credibility threshold. I, for one, would love to research the information you speak of and appreciate any sources you might provide.

Only the ignorant would think otherwise.

I respectfully add that only an idiot would accept such startling information based on unsourced speculation from a local shock jock. Besides, I thought the MSM was the enemy.

Has the benchmark for presenting factual information backed by erudite sources been lifted from ATS?

[edit on 20-5-2010 by kinda kurious]

They're saying global warming is a religion because that way it directly opposes the main religion of a lot of people, Christianity. Great way to pull people on the "it's ok to pollute" bandwagon...

I have never listened to Alex Jones,

and everything I learned about the coming of the NWO came from my Christian friends, who introduced me to this topic before there was an internet, to think a person cannot know about all this with out AJ or conspiracy sites is not necessarily true,

But Beck serves a purpose?

Edit to say I have been listening to Christian eschatologist speak of CTs and the coming NWO for 30 years, in fact I believe that is were it started.



Edit again to say, everything they foretold is coming to pass.





[edit on 013131p://bThursday2010 by Stormdancer777]

reply to post by NoHierarchy


The Republicans and Democratic parties are now know to many as the root of the problem. No amount of political magic will be able to unscramble that egg. There is little to no trust left for the two standing status quo parties.
If you want to understand what actually brought us to this point ,look to when the banks began their usery policies toward the borrowing public.
There was a time in this country when money on deposit earned 1% and money borrowed cost 2%. The banks survived and thrived on their 1% income. When the banks discovered that through usery practices they could create a golden goose. That is when things turned drasticaly wrong.
Beck has a point like him or not. The information he has uncovered is at the very least plausable, and at the most a devistating conspiratorial monoply. Either way it deserves the attention of the people!!

Originally posted by daddyroo45
reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

The Republicans and Democratic parties are now know to many as the root of the problem. No amount of political magic will be able to unscramble that egg. There is little to no trust left for the two standing status quo parties.
If you want to understand what actually brought us to this point ,look to when the banks began their usery policies toward the borrowing public.
There was a time in this country when money on deposit earned 1% and money borrowed cost 2%. The banks survived and thrived on their 1% income. When the banks discovered that through usery practices they could create a golden goose. That is when things turned drasticaly wrong.
Beck has a point like him or not. The information he has uncovered is at the very least plausable, and at the most a devistating conspiratorial monoply. Either way it deserves the attention of the people!!

The plain truth is- industrialized countries probably DO have to collapse in order to secure freedom and environmental sustainability for the future.

You can nitpick minor cogs in the grand machine, but civilization is unsustainable BY DESIGN since its inception 10,000 years ago. The agricultural revolution allowed humans to exploit the land, settle in one place, and reproduce at INSANELY EXPLOSIVE RATES. Everything is now under lock and key, nothing is free. This gave rise to extreme hierarchies of wealth/power in the form of nation-states/government, massive centralized markets, codified law/property, large-scale warfare, wholesale exploitation of resources, extreme class/status and a vast majority composing a slave underclass which is a system REQUIREMENT not a defect. Regardless of the wonderful/beautiful intellectual/artistic/medical achievements of our civilization, the net result is in the red. We are now at the point of doubling population every 30 or so years. The planet is FINITE in resources and when those resources collapse it'll make all our stupid little political/market worries look like a game of monopoly.

Glenn Beck is obviously an agent in the DEFENSE of the system, in DEFENSE of totalitarian markets, unsustainable industrialization, and he's pretending he's sounding the alarm against the powers that be, whether or not he believes he is is not the point, he's just very undeveloped in his worldview/facts. Well, the fact is we're facing collapses NO MATTER WHAT, and they may be necessary, as I've said. Beck, in my eyes, is an enemy of any resistance and an enemy of long-term cultural revolution that could hope to bring about a sustainable and free society. He may superficially look like he's representing truth (well... to people with half a brain and a strong fear-response) and all these conspiracy theories you've heard over the years, but we must realize that there are only grains of truth in conspiracy theory and they're quite unreliable. You don't NEED an NWO when you already live in a tyrannical civilization. We're ALREADY under the thumb of this horrible machine, there's no jackboot coming it's already here, been here for millenia, it just waxes/wanes in severity. The REAL revolution is to dismantle it in the best way possible that secures the lives/freedoms of as many people possible. Capitalism is NOT an alternative to itself, just as Communism is not an alternative. We must either move beyond it or suffer its sacrifices, and I really don't think the sacrifices for industrial capitalism OR communism are worth it... nor are they sustainable for long. This is why I'm an Anarchist. If we are to look TRULY towards the long-term, then we must realize that the system must be dismantled in whole/part provided the fantasies of techno-junkies don't save us all with no negative repercussions... but that's about as likely as Jesus or aliens coming down to save us all. We MUST SMARTEN UP, become humble and save ourselves, and saving ourselves can ONLY mean saving the ecosystems that allow us to live as well. We cannot think "Ohhhh if only the banks didn't do this and that! If only government didn't do this or that! If only corporations didn't do this or that! We'd be fine!! We simply must root out these pesky leaks and everything will work and we can have our cake and eat it to!" The cold reality is, this joyride we're on is pure magic and no tweaks, programs, different leaders, different flavors of markets/government will solve the SYSTEMIC defects of it. Sure, even I give support for certain tweaks/programs/policies that are good for freedom/the environment/equality/opportunity SO LONG as the system exists, we must at least do that. But while we crusade for/against causes and sub-causes, we cannot shut our eyes to the glaring realities that supersede even the most important issues/factions WITHIN the system.

To: Kinda Kurious

I would totally recommend not being "kinda kurious: but completely curious. After studying what I believe to be a grand conspiracy to create a one world government for the better of a decade, I'm rather convinced that it is true. Asking me for proof of this is like asking me to share the contents of a library. You'll have to do the research yourself and make your own conclusions.

There are many means to an end, are there not? Global warming may just be another method to getting to that end. The local pundit (his name is Howey Carr...he is known nationally as well) was reading from a nationally sydnicated columnist, so no, I am not getting my information from a tarnished source. Beyond that, many people believe that global warming is becoming "religion-like" but don't take that literally. It is a figurative term meant to show how people are bowing down to the global warming priests and creating a new world model based on proven false science (forged and innacurate paperwork, as you know from the recent scandal involving global warming and it's purported "scientists.")

Whether you agree with this scenario or not, ask yourself, "Is there a chance there is some validity to what Beck and others are saying?" Because, my friend, if there is a chance you are wrong....if there is a chance that this "conspiracy" has one morsel of truth, then it's your freedom that is at stake. It's your children and grandchildren that will live in a world vastly changed from the one we know now. Do you want to risk that? Or do you want to get on board and refuse to be one of the sheeple?

As to where us open-minded people should gather our information: The process of weeding out the BS from the truth isn't an easy one. But we should all pick and choose with impunity. I think when many different people from many different walks of life and with varying "truth meters" are all saying the same thing, it's enough to say that you need to pay attention. You don't have to agree with every assertation, but you do have to give it your consideration. You can start to form the bigger picture from a vareity of sources.

Thanks for your response.

Clearly there is a planned hatred for Glenn Beck and Fox News around here. Therefore, Let's play pretend for a brief moment.

Take all of the information presented by Beck and Fox and put in the kind and gentile hands of the late Mr. Rogers.

The information is still the same but just a different voice delivering it.

There is clearly merit to these allegations and connections that have been revealed recently. You can't deny that fact. Is this information more believable if it comes from Mr. Rogers?

Everyone is so quick to shoot down Beck without commenting on the the information and facts.

Something far greater than all of us is clearly a foot. Personally, I find the high degree of interconnectivity between all of these characters, corporations and organizations to be very disturbing.

Just read up on the recent "Private" bail out of Shore Bank by all of the usual suspects and what they stand to gain from Shoreline's operations.

[edit on 21-5-2010 by jibeho]