It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Canadianinsight
I've looked through the Lucus videos. They are basically a collection of irrelevant stuff slapped together and mean nothing.
If there was a big object out there it would affect the movement of the known planets. A large object also reflects light. Some people claim it's a brown dwarf and you can't see it because it is only seen in t he infrared. Silly claim. It is true that the object emits its own radiation in the infrared, but it also reflects other EM such as visible light. If you can see Jupiter and Saturn without the aid of a telescope, then you should be able to see something massive in our solar system. You can't see it. You can detect it affecting other planets. Guess what it is not there.
Mike Brown]
I posted the Mark Brown interview in which he makes it pretty clear that nothing large can exist within the orbits of the known planets. This guy Brown has discovered 100 Kuiper belt objects. He knows how to find things out there.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by ChemBreather
Neutron stars are heavy. If a neutron star were headed towards our solar system we'd have seen the effects years ago. If we can detect the presence of an object the size of Jupiter out 2000AU by watching the movements of the known planets, then I bet a neuron star could be detected out 1 light year. A neuron star weighs more than our sun.
The claim is that you can't see it. So what. You can still 'see' what it's gravity does.
The observatory also made headlines briefly with the discovery of an "unknown object" that was at first described as "possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system.
A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite. ...
The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 billion miles. While that may seem like a great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone's throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto.
"If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system," said Dr. James Houck of Cornell University's Center for Radio Physics and Space Research and a member of the IRAS science team. "If it is that close, I don't know how the world's planetary scientists would even begin to classify it." ...
When IRAS scientists first saw the mystery body and calculated that it could be as close as 50 billion miles, there was some speculation that it might be moving toward Earth.
"It's not incoming mail," Cal Tech's Neugebauer said. "I want to douse that idea with as much cold water as I can."
Shrouded from the sun's light, mysteriously tugging at the orbits of Uranus and Neptune, is an unseen force that astronomers suspect may be Planet X - a 10th resident of the Earth's celestial neighborhood. Last year, the infrared astronomical satellite (IRAS), circling in a polar orbit 560 miles from the Earth, detected heat from an object about 50 billion miles away that is now the subject of intense speculation
Originally posted by danj3ris
So serbsta, are you an expert on Nibiru? Are you 100% sure it even exists and what form it exists in?
IRAS was designed to look in the far-infrared, well past what our eyes see. At the time, no one was really sure what it would find. To everyone's surprise, several bright point sources were found that did not correspond to anything seen on optical images taken of the same areas. In the press conference, the two scientists said that these objects could be almost anything, from a tenth planet in our solar system to distant galaxies.
Guess which it turned out to be? Sure enough, much deeper images were taken, and some of the objects were found to be dense gas clouds in our own Galaxy, while others turned out to be very distant galaxies. In fact, these observations heralded the discovery of a new type of object: Ultra-luminous Infrared Galaxies (ULIRGs).
However, further analysis revealed that, of several unidentified objects, nine were distant galaxies and the tenth was "intergalactic cirrus".[4] None were found to be Solar System bodies.
Originally posted by MakeSoap
The TimeWave Zero graph starts its final drop in 11-14-10, my friggen birthday! (Sarcastically) Fantastic! Unless this timewave zero has something to do with ME!!!! AHHHHH!!! honestly, I have NO IDEA what the timewave zero graph, which I see all over the place mind you, is or where it came from. Can anyone explain how it was created? Thanks.
"Timewave zero" is a numerological formula that purports to calculate the ebb and flow of "novelty", defined as an increase in the universe's interconnectedness, or organised complexity, over time.
According to Terence McKenna, who conceived the idea over several years in the early-mid 1970s while using psilocybin mushrooms and '___', the universe has a teleological attractor at the end of time that increases interconnectedness, eventually reaching a singularity of infinite complexity in 2012, at which point anything and everything imaginable will occur simultaneously.
McKenna expressed "novelty" in a computer program, which purportedly produces a waveform known as timewave zero or the timewave.
Based on McKenna's interpretation of the King Wen sequence of the I Ching, the graph appears to show great periods of novelty corresponding with major shifts in humanity's biological and cultural evolution.
He believed the events of any given time are recursively related to the events of other times, and chose the atomic bombing of Hiroshima as the basis for calculating his end date in November 2012. When he later discovered this date's proximity to the end of the 13th b'ak'tun on the Maya calendar, he revised his hypothesis so that the two dates matched.
The first edition of The Invisible Landscape refers to 2012 (as the year, not a specific day) only twice. McKenna originally considered it an incidental observation that his and José Argüelles dates matched, a sign of the end date "being programmed into our unconscious".
It was only in 1983, with the publication of Sharer's revised table of date correlations in the 4th edition of Morley's The Ancient Maya, that each became convinced that December 21, 2012 had significant meaning. McKenna subsequently peppered this specific date throughout the second, 1993 edition of The Invisible Landscape.
Originally posted by Aziroth
reply to post by VendettaBeretta
We sure have had a surplus of new members lately, this one brought something entertaining though; welcome and good job. I am not sure what this is, I have heard about a few comets heading our direction, and I also remember there was a comet that got very close to the sun recently; not sure when that was will look this info up and add it here.
I am sure you will get all sorts of responses to this, just keep going; it also helps to try and debunk your own work, adds a sort of validity to your pursuit for truth.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Unity_99
Unity 99 as I've told you countless times. No planets can exist within the orbits of the known planets without us having known about it for decades.
What I think is funny here is the double standard used by the 'whatever you want to call it' group. They demand that we establish with a huge pile of information that this is a known object. On the other hand, Unity 99 wants to make unsubstantiated claims based on nothing, or the fraudulent translations from Sitchin or the rabbit hole, or whatever is the dubious source du jour. Almost always there is no source.
Stars are always present in the STEREO COR2, HI1, and HI2 images, and can sometimes be seen in COR1.