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If you think you are such an authority on urban combat, go fight the war yourselves and end it for us. If you are such experts on what should happen here, what should happen there, what should happen now and then, etc. etc. go fight the war and end it.
Originally posted by Kailassa
I don't like what rapists do.
However that does not mean I'm going to become a rapist to show them how to do it better.
And you think critics of this wholesale rape of Iraq and Afghanistan should sign up to help you rape these countries more efficiently?
Originally posted by dalek
reply to post by Reign02
It's ironic that you refer to fear mongering, considering that the airwaves and the Bush administration was happily pumping the fear mongering message out right after 911, a message that took a lot of the misguided happily down the road to war.
Originally posted by grimreaper797
Originally posted by Portugoal
So I'm waiting, any volunteers? Who thinks they can handle it all so much better?
Hello,
I will totally lead the troops back home. Give me the authority, and I'll make it so.
I'll place our troops all along the borders to put an end to illegal immigration, and drug trafficking.
I'll make the entire military go home on leave every two weeks, rotating so that our borders, and national interests are maintained and protected. That's just for starters.
Then I will bring a military tribunal to question the former administration, after which, the same for current administration.
Then I will EO all the compartmentalized/alphabet agencies to cease and desist. TSA will protect American soil, not check if the pants are soiled. This will be cumbersome, I know...
Then I will make State reps/and congress work for a more realistic public-serviceman salary, like $40,000 a year. If they think they are above that, they can go peddle shoes in Africa, and S. America. Atleast then they will be doing some good. And while passing laws, they are simplified and passed by the public voting without representation, other than by, and for themselves.
I'll EO the disclosure of all hidden secrets I deem of not interfering with national security. I could go-on for days, but I'm not a fascist/tyrant/dictaster.
[edit on (4/8/1010 by loveguy]
Originally posted by dalek
Do you think that sending Troops into Afghanistan and Iraq was a mistake?
If so? WHEN did you arrive at that judgment?
Originally posted by dalek
reply to post by grimreaper797
Do you think that sending Troops into Afghanistan and Iraq was a mistake?
If so? WHEN did you arrive at that judgment?
Originally posted by jackflap
The thing is, most people here don't believe there should be a war going on. Those who do are programmed beyond belief into following their leader and letting the multi billion dollar corporations dictate their lives for them. It's funny because in the end, those same people who are complacent about the atrocities and even instigate them will be the same ones who will be wondering what is happening when their reality is presented to them. So yeah, let's end it and not fight.
6 pages of complaining without a single shot in the dark as to how things could be done any differently, in even the slightest aspect, is definitely ridiculous.
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by Jazzyguy
AS a veteran this is why I support an across the board military draft, People wouldn’t be so quick to send their kids off to war if they knew their children would see it...
I have saw the horrors of war, but sides (in Iraq) did terrible things, It won’t end unless we say we have had enough.
Originally posted by OverSword
Again.... before you judge the apache pilot please check the following page.
mypetjawa.mu.nu...
Originally posted by loveguy
Hello,
I will totally lead the troops back home. Give me the authority, and I'll make it so.
I'll place our troops all along the borders to put an end to illegal immigration, and drug trafficking.
I'll make the entire military go home on leave every two weeks, rotating so that our borders, and national interests are maintained and protected. That's just for starters.
Then I will bring a military tribunal to question the former administration, after which, the same for current administration.
Then I will EO all the compartmentalized/alphabet agencies to cease and desist. TSA will protect American soil, not check if the pants are soiled. This will be cumbersome, I know...
Then I will make State reps/and congress work for a more realistic public-serviceman salary, like $40,000 a year. If they think they are above that, they can go peddle shoes in Africa, and S. America. Atleast then they will be doing some good.
And while passing laws, they are simplified and passed by the public voting without representation, other than by, and for themselves.
I'll EO the disclosure of all hidden secrets I deem of not interfering with national security. I could go-on for days, but I'm not a fascist/tyrant/dictaster.
Originally posted by defcon5
Originally posted by OverSword
Again.... before you judge the apache pilot please check the following page.
mypetjawa.mu.nu...
I’ll ask you the same thing I asked in another thread on the topic…
Since when is it US policy to continue to double tap the wounded until they stop moving?
Since when is it US policy to fire on those rescuing or treating the wounded?
These are the types of activities that I expect to see in WWII movies being done by the Axis Powers, I certainly never thought I would see our troops engage in such things.
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by eikmun
The reality of the situation? Give it a rest. The reality of the situation is these pilots acted prematurely and murdered innocent civillians and high fived and congratulated each other after doing it. That's the most disgusting thing about the entire video in my opinion. Nice shooting as if it's a video game.
[edit on 8-4-2010 by Zosynspiracy]
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by Jazzyguy
AS a veteran this is why I support an across the board military draft, People wouldn’t be so quick to send their kids off to war if they knew their children would see it...
I have saw the horrors of war, but sides (in Iraq) did terrible things, It won’t end unless we say we have had enough.
Originally posted by jackflap
Thank you for the reply, that was a good one! The thing is, people feel as though they were lied to. About nine eleven and we all definitely know we were lied to about Iraq. So what we need is the truth first. Which is going to be all but impossible to get to. There are groups who are working on getting the truth out. It just seems like an up hill battle.
There are dangerous people that would like nothing better than to destroy us you are right. They were lied to as well and are under the same oppressive programming techniques. It's like we need a light switch to go on in everyone's head at once. Everyone needs to put down the weapons and ask what in the world are we doing to eachother?
Far be it from anyone in a position of power to call a press conference and say something like that. It wouldn't happen. They make too much money off us killing eachother. It gets frustrating and that is why you see so much complaining and not a lot of alternate theories. It's the little box we have been put in. Thank you again for taking the time to reply as you did.