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Originally posted by grimreaper797
Originally posted by loveguy
Actually I am going to stop right here. The reason being?
Thanks. But don't you mean there's not enough character slots left to continue in one post?
In order for me to answer your post, I'll have to post more than once, disrupting the thread further. characters (6500 maximum)
And even though I just retired from my job today and have all the rest of my life to reply, I'm not up to even 30 wpm yet. That's starting a new job, with no income to compensate me, so thanks for the invite, but no thanks. How's that for a cop-out? Money makes the world go around.
I will try to simplify things though. How about decompartmentalizing the federal government, first? Doing away with agencies that front to be doing a "different aspect of said duties." Eliminate the Government within the Government, you know, the shady things happening?
Sep. 10, '01 Rumsfield mentioned trillions is lost. It'll turn up.
Here's a kicker, no more aid to Israel, how's that for not raising taxes? Any State rep, or congressman butt-hurt about it can resign. Good riddance. Don't confuse anti-semitism with anti-zionism.
This is a wild crusade that I will not attempt to succeed on my own, so since I'm only as important or as powerful as the company I keep, I can accept defeat.
You can harvest my soul now grimreaper797. I'll take my chances going to hell, but faith in it's self is a miracle isn't it? I'll have to trade my soul in order to even want to "control" another human being. Like I said, I'm no fascist/tyrant/dictator, nor a control freak in any sense of the word.
You win this debate, but I'll be back. I can't say I'll be a competent adversary, but, I'll be back. Thanks for the link.
You are talking in generalizations. That doesn't change anything. You haven't addressed any specific gripes between the groups. You merely identified that it is about religion. That was obvious. Until you can get into specifics, whatever you do is going to be fruitless.
Originally posted by jackflap
I believe what I am trying to convey is that what I am implying is a good starting point. The specifics can be dealt with after the major problems are addressed. By generalizing and coming to grips what is really at the heart of the matter may open a few eyes.
Originally posted by grimreaper797
reply to post by loveguy
I'm not trying to be your adversary, I'm trying to get you thinking on a level which you would need to think at to make any sort of change. "It's all in the details" as they say.
If you approach a situation without competent and complete ways to fill the voids created, you will get nowhere. Believe it or not, I am actually a libertarian. My objections to your ideas have nothing to do with me opposing such ideas. My questions come from trying to challenge such ideas so that when they do fall under scrutiny, they don't crumble, or at the very least, come off as competent enough to consider and modify if needed.
What I am proposing to you is not control over another soul, but the ability to out-reason the opposing group so that they are no longer the opposing group. The reason "the powers that be" are in control is because they are smarter and more equipped to shoot down plans with even the slightest flaws. Push your ideas to be impermeable to such scrutiny out of sheer logical force, and then you will have something to go on, and something to complain about.
Originally posted by Jazzyguy
Something else we were encouraged to do, almost with a wink and nudge, was to carry 'drop weapons', or by my third tour, 'drop shovels'. We would carry these weapons or shovels with us because if we accidentally shot a civilian, we could just toss the weapon on the body, and make them look like an insurgent."
Originally posted by PhyberDragon
reply to post by jerico65
actually at the time of the revolution the king of england was also the king of france.
No, he wasn't. George III was the King of England. (strictly speaking of the United Kingdom), and Louis XVI was the King of France.
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
I just hope the American populace won't be so gullible the next time the American government tries to peddle a war via propaganda to them.
Originally posted by hotbakedtater
Does this surprise anyone?
Our military gives kids a free video game to entice them to join up.
The banter of the wiki leaks soldiers sounds like my living room when the kids play Halo.
And please keep the America Hate rhetoric to yourself. If America is hated for this, other countries are hated for the same cruelties, war is ugly and this is war. No one gets to wear the I am the worst country badge in war, because all war is ugly and violent.