Originally posted by time91
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I read on one of your threads about how America's treaty with Britain ending the revolutionary war actually gave the king control of America and
made him our treasurer. I looked it up and I did read in the first paragraph that he gets his power from being a prince of Rome (among other things)
but I didn't fully understand the exact meaning of a lot of it so I'll just take your word for it.
Yet on ancient futurist's post it says Britain was in control of the U.S. 'since 1871'. Which one is it? If you guys could elaborate on that it
would help me out, thanks.
EDIT: I know you would say Rome controls Britain anyway but I'm just assuming we were controlled through Britain in the past.
[edit on 8-4-2010 by time91]
Good question, John Jay, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin negotiated the Treaty of Paris that ended the Revolutionary War as plenipotentiaries of the
United States of America.
In reality the United States of America did not formally exist until that moment when the King of England in his role as Prince Elector of the Roman
Empire named it into existence.
Jay, Adams and Franklin were in fact stripped of all their Colonial Titles under the Continental Congress and besides being appointed
plenipotentiaries of the newly named United States were ostensibly present at the Court of Versailles as esquires, which are lawyers and one step
below knights on the nobility chart, after having been charged by and retained for the Court of their High Mightiness of the Netherlands, (John Jay),
the Court of Madrid (John Adams) and the Court of Versailles (Benjamin Franklin) which were all major land, and stake owners and creditors to the
Fictionally the story of brave Revolutionaries fighting a tyrannical King for their freedom is highly engrossing, until one bothers to stop and
realize the Revolutionaries were in essence stealing other people’s land to forge a nation and using either borrowed or stolen assets to wage that
Those tactical battlefield victories did nothing to dissuade the true proprietors and title holders, stake holders and creditors from wanting their
investments and titles to be honored.
In truth the Revolutionaries had no money in which to purchase these assets, but the principle nations that owned them, Spain, England and France had
not only plenty of money, but plenty of men to continue taking the fight to the Rebels and to isolate them through trade blockades and military action
into eventual submission.
However that costs money all the way around so the Revolutionaries were given a face saving option. Incorporate into the Holy Roman Empire as an
nation the English King as a Prince Elector of the Roman Empire would name into it, write a constitution that protected the creditors and landowners,
and allow for some nominal behind the scenes controls to ensure everyone’s investment internationally was adequately protected.
The Revolutionaries got to come off as heroes and of course the Creditors and Land Owners got to make money and secretly retain control.
This all worked fine until the Holy Roman Empire dissolved on paper in 1805, in large part due to the fact that the English Monarch also had long laid
claim to France as were the Bourbon Kings. In the Treaty of Paris, King George is actually titled as the King of France, with the usurper Bourbon King
of France only being listed as a creditor to the revolutionaries. This dispute more than anything led to the desolving of the Holy Roman Empire on
The King of Spain, though the Holy Roman Court of Madrid, the High Mightiness of the Netherlands through the Holy Roman Court there, and the King of
England, through the Holy Roman Court of Versailles all enjoyed being genuine Roman States, where as the Bourbon King was not affiliated with Rome.
Eventually the Masons and Napoleon would deal with that problem, but as the Holy Roman Empire disintegrated on paper, it gave the leaders of the new
United States the idea that it might be possible to renege on their contractual obligations to Rome and the English Monarch.
The British eventually captured and sacked Washington D.C. in the War of 1812, and carried off all the original documents including the sealed secret
committees of Congress that tacitly understood the United States of America is an incorporated Roman entity under the British Monarchy.
In the aftermath of the War of 1812, when during the Treaty of Ghent our representatives were confronted with their previous contractual obligations
and once again acquiesced to Roman and English control despite another series of tactical battlefield victories, a number of Americans became alarmed
that we in fact once again won nothing in the war, and our representatives allowed the English to once again dictate the terms of the peace.
This led to a widespread backlash against the Masons in the 1820, as it was feared they had conspired all along with the English and sold the people a
false bill of goods.
This led to the first attempt at secession by a number of States, but Andrew Jackson, then President, in a famed joint session of Congress argued
convincingly that should any one or number of states leave the union it would irreparably harm the others.
Still a number of the Southern States were not happy with the arrangement which led to the Original 13th Amendment which still exists in copies in a
couple of State Capital Buildings, where all Esquires and Nobility were barred from office. In other words, Lawyers could not make the very same laws
that they would then earn a living by employing.
However by the 1860’s tensions were on the rise on both sides as the rapidly industrialized and internationally capitalized North attempted to
infringe on the Constitutional form of Government favored by the largely agrarian South.
The Civil War in fact was all about whether Constitutional Government with the bulk of the power wielded by the States would prevail, or Corporate
Government with the bulk of the power wielded by the Federal Government on behalf of the English and Roman principles would prevail.
Unlike Jackson, Lincoln did not even attempt to talk the Southern States back into the Union but imposed a military dictatorship and an Emergency War
Time De Facto Government using Corporate Laws and Codes instead of Constitutional Laws and Codes, which still exists to this day.
Once the rebellion in the South was crushed, it was placed under a military occupation that did not end officially until 1978. However the United
States is still carved up into 10 Military Government Zones.
The original 13th Amendment barring nobility from holding office was quietly suppressed during the reconstruction and instead was rewritten to make it
illegal for any human to own another.
This was quickly followed by the fourteenth amendment that made corporations equivalent to persons legally, without the liability, and made us all
corporate citizens/property of the corporate government.
This allowed the Congress to start passing all laws based on regulating interstate commerce, which it technically had broad power to do under the
constitution, and since we had all been made property of a corporation, we lost all of our constitutional rights, and began being regulated as part of
the commerce system.
This is what the United States Census is all about by the way, and the reason why the Census was mandated in the Constitution was for our English,
European and Roman Creditors, so they could monitor our credit worthiness based on our estimated future productive output based on the actual number
of people dwelling within the Corporate United States.
It took them the better part of a 100 years to lock us into that system after the Revolutionary War but by after the Civil War England and Rome were
well in control. The Federal Reserve Act of 1911 was the final nail in the coffin, giving the English Monarchy and the Vatican complete control of our
In the 1930’s we were all officially serialized under the Social Security Act and today we are in fact nothing but a nation of chattel, serialized,
and controlled by an International Shadow Government locked into the bondage of illusionary freedom offset by over 600,000 laws and codes that
regulate every facet of our existence.
Welcome to Rome, please note the Exit Signs…there are presently none. That though my friend ought to change.
[edit on 8/4/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]
[edit on 9/4/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]