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The True Hidden Structure of World Power

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posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 10:33 PM
Yes, you might also read "Rulers of Evil". Tauper Saucey makes a good argument for the Disbanding of the Jesuits being a ploy to get the Protestant countries to lower their resistance to Catholicism. The uSA was founded by the Jesuits as a vehicle for the world domination. The Jesuits later retaliated against all countries that supported the disbanding of the Jesuits.

What people fail to understand is that the Vatican / Jesuits play all sides. To appear weak and helpless or short of money are just tools of the trade. The Rothschild are wealthy and influential only because they are the Money handlers for the Vatican. All the world is a stage. The play is scripted and carried out in front of the world audience. Masons, CFR, etc. are tools. George Washington and the like where honestly implementing their Masonic goals in belief they where opposing Catholicism when in reality they where taking order from the black pope.

You have 2000 years of con artists / scammers / crooks who have been at the forefront of education, entertainment, war, spying and assassination, criminal justice / law, finance, torture, brainwashing, slavery, etc., etc.. They have exploited every business opportunity that has come along in the last 2,000 years. Bill Gates, for example, is a knight of Malta. Microsoft is a Vatican corporation. The money in the Vatican bank does not represent the wealth of the Vatican. It's simply a fishing lure. When P2 ripped off the Vatican Bank it was likely under orders from the black pope to do so. P2 may never have known that was who was ultimately giving the orders.

Likely there are others, perhaps the black nobility, that own the Vatican and where the dynastic founders 2,000 years ago. Likely the own Judaism too. Likely the scammers simply diversified their holding and put up Catholicism when the opportunity of Christianity came along. The white pope has clearly never been the real owner of Catholicism.

posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 10:43 PM
reply to post by time91

Yes my friend, Andrew Jackson is the TRUE American Hero. They kept trying to kill him and he kept killing tough SOB.

Many thanks to you for this OP...very well laid out indeed...not sure when the next strongman will come...i don't think it will be the upcoming election. And, yeah I'll bet they are scramblings...time for plan B.

posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 10:52 PM
reply to post by Josephus23

Not only are they hidden in the background worshipping things that are not in the public domain they have magic and technologies hundreds of years beyond what people currently percieve not just psycotronic warfare and electronic harrassment but interdimensional technologies and the ability to change time and space,I wont go into great detail but all we get to with the Black Pope is a glorified warden-upper management lies elsewhere and may not necessarily be completely human.

posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 11:03 PM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

I have heard that Troy was the first official battle between cities, and I have heard the manipulation of history by the Jesuits to control what we think has happened, but I am merely going by what I have read about the Egyptian Mysteries and the translations of the Sumerian Cuneiform Stella.

Apparently the original Egyptian Pharaohs and the Babylonians were black Africans. Their bloodline became intermingled with the Khazars/Hyksos, who eventually took over the Pharaohonic bloodline by means of infiltration.

They were forced to become practicing Jews, because the Jews were captives of the Babylonians of the time, but they kept the worship of their original god.
I believe it was called Shatan.

Through the work of the Saducees and the Pharicees, they created the Kabbalah and the Talmud, which are the mystical interpretations of what the Rabbis believed were the original meaning of the Torah.

True Torah Jews do not practice the religion of the Talmud.

Christianity came as a result of a rebellion against the Saducees and the Pharicees. These two groups had infiltrated the mystery religions of the Black Egyptian Jews and replaced it with their Kaballah, which worships their Khazarian God, Shatan.

Satan, Lucifer, Ba'al, Molech, Yahweh, Jehovah. All the same persons.

After Christianity revolted, then Constantine Christianized the Roman Empire creating the Holy Roman Empire, but this was only after the influence of Egypt with it's Khazar ruling "Jews".

That lead to the creation of the Holy Roman Empire, where emperors were now called Popes.

The original Mysteries discovered by the original Jews, black Africans, were a GOOD thing.
Read about the Pythagorian Mysteries. He was the man.

But it was the infiltration, which has been going on for a LONG time, that aided in the situation that we have now.

The enemy works off of a 6000 year calender dating back to a supernova that exploded at 4000 BCE. It exploded in the middle of a group of stars that formed a triangle (eye of horus. HELLO), and then supposedly deposited some type of initiate knowledge upon a certain group of men (fire maybe?).
From this they developed Mathematics and Astronomy and they used this to create a religion that would allow them to control the masses.
That is why the knowledge is secret and for initiates only.

It gives them the power.

This has been going on for much, much longer than just the Roman Empire, however...

It was eventually co-opted by the real power players.

But not one person can tell me with certainty who the real power players are. I guarantee you that.

The Real Power Players.

[edit on 4/8/2010 by Josephus23]

posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 11:06 PM
reply to post by anglodemonicmatrix

Glad to see that you understand exactly how devious and patiently, psychotically evil the enemy is.

posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 11:29 PM
reply to post by Josephus23

The Habiru/Hapiri/Hyksos also known as the Hebrew have never been slaves anywhere, that is another myth propagated for sympathy and to misinform and disarm people.

The were in fact a nomadic sea people that showed up in the Middle East about 6,000 years ago and were principally pirates, slave traders, mercenaries, skilled craftsmen, masons, money lenders, and political advisers. They wandered in and out of every kingdom from Babylon to Egypt as separate but equal peoples much as they do today, and would invariably take over, tyrannize and loot, until the people rebelled and threw them out.

By the time Rome came along, when Rome could not steal through conquest, it borrowed gold from the Pharisees to finance its expansion. Eventually though the cost of that expansion, coupled with running a welfare state of bread and circuses led both the Pharisees and the principle Romans to worry if they might default at that rate.

So they cooked up together the trio of religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam as a divide and conquer, and control mechanism, and substituted the concepts of Heaven and Hell and eternal salvation for Bread and Circuses.

They utilize a progression of the equinoxes calendar and run everything in 2600 year cycles. The Age of Pisces is almost over, that’s what 2012 is about, the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.

They will be imposing a new system utilizing collective consciousness; the Internet is the technological forerunner to that. We are all being wired together through a work in progress. As time goes on it will be harder and harder to hide anything in the way of thoughts from central authority and eventually each other in the new age.

I believe I know who the Puppet Master is, and where in fact he can be found. He is hidden in relatively plain site, is relatively obscure, no one would think its where or who everything emanates from.

I plan on investigating that real time, and to go there, and question and confront the individual this August.

I could be wrong, but everything fits. I will wait though until I make that journey before revealing it as a possibility or a certainty.

As Rome’s leading moral authority it does fall on me to straighten this mess out, and I shall endeavor to do so.

The truth is though, that the majority of people are so accustomed to deception and bondage, I am not sure if I am doing them a courtesy in that regard or a disservice.

What a planet, what a life!

posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 11:31 PM
I've just read the 1997 Social Security Order. It is a minor piece of subsidiary legislation that recognises tax contributions paid by a British citizen while in America, to the American government as being valid in relation to that citizen's eligibility for health-related benefits on their return to Britain. Doubtless somewhere there is some mutual agreement betweeen US and UK governments for reimbursment of such tax payments for each country's citizens while resident in the other country.

It is absolutely nothing whatso-@@@@ing -ever to do with British control of your country's social security system.
It isn't even all that late at night on your side of the Pond yet and you are falling for this BS ! Do any of you put your brains in gear before you log in?
How the @@@@ have so many of you managed to extrapolate British control of anything in America merely from the title of an Order in Council, not even a full-blown act of Parliament?
We already have one recent thread the poster thought necessary to start because some of you were unaware that Scotland is part of the United Kingdom and now we get this.
The slogan of this forum is 'deny ignorance'! For pity's sake ! Well, what else should I expect from a site where someone starts an April Fool's thread claiming Obama is about to resign out of disillusion with all the conspiracies and it runs for pages before the joke finally dawns on most of the readership, or where someone starts another because they think Australia and New Zealand have moved several hundred miles North East?

How the @@@@ can you be so arrogant as to sit there with your heads up your fundaments so far you think Britain is still some evil imperial power, holding poor unsuspecting little America in it's insidious, all-pervasive grasp when international history as viewed from the rest of the world quite emphatically has it the other way round?
That seems to be the underlying motif of so many conspiracy theories:- it's you, the poor helpless Americans at the mercy of some nasty foreign schemers. It's you who are the victims and us nasty Brits, Jews or ex-commies who are to blame.

I am not on rhetorical top form at the moment but that's because I am so overwhelmingly angry at the level of inward-looking, self-excusing, self-sanctifying ignorance displayed by the OP and his sycophantic supporters on this thread.
You ought to be ashamed of yourselves, but you will probably write me off as some paid disinformational troll. There could be all sorts of conspiracies going down in US, but the readers of this thread would be way too dumb to spot them .
I've half a mind to resign from this forum, but then I would only need half a mind to stay.

posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 11:46 PM
reply to post by Bigfoot73

I am not on rhetorical top form at the moment but that's because I am so overwhelmingly angry at the level of inward-looking, self-excusing, self-sanctifying ignorance displayed by the OP and his sycophantic supporters on this thread.

It’s highly doubtful you have the working knowledge of the English language in legalese to have any real idea what you have read.

Words in legal binding documents have very precise and literal meanings, some of which are obscure and literally hundreds upon hundreds of years old to understand the real meaning of them.

Law my friend, contract law, is a very peculiar thing.

Regardless some of us have devoted countless hours, for years, researching a plethora of evidence, and take such research seriously, and without the underlying emotion that seems to cloud your own judgment.

The underlying conspiracies that create the matrix of our shared reality are in fact troubling to the initiate first learning of them and being exposed to them.

Denial and anger are all part of grief, and grief is inevitable when you loose the illusion that frames your reality and validates you.

ATS really isn’t for everyone. Especially those who feel inclined to attack the posters instead of debating the issues on facts and substance, but as in all things in life, there is a learning curve.

The Roman Empire has never died, and the United States of America is an incorporated state of the Roman Empire, named and created into it, by the English monarchy.

All monarchs derive their power and titles from Rome; they all serve by the grace of God which is the Pope.

You have a lot of reading to do if you really want to understand these things, or if you prefer you can just rant, but it still won’t change the true nature of the world, that will be what it is, regardless of how you choose to perceive it.


posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 11:51 PM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

I agree that the Hyksos have never been slaves, but to mask their true identity, they intermarried and practiced Judaism and Christianity in order to further and fulfill their true work of the ages.

The Hyksos, like many Israelis and Americans, not all but many, are too proud to be slaves.
They do not practice the TRUE servile religions of Christianity and Judaism in secret, but only in public as to cover their butts.
The ends always justifies the means with those folks.
Darn egomanics.

I must say that, I think that we agree more than we disagree, but I do believe that this goes back WAY farther than the Roman Empire.

I would be interested to know who you want to point the finger at.
And maybe we could continue this discussion on some of the more sensitive parts in a U2U.
Like you, I never say what I TRULY know on ATS.
I am not that stupid.

Thanks for the replies, they have been very informative.

U2U me and we can continue this conversation if you would like.

posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:01 AM
reply to post by ancientfuturist

So where do the Rothschilds fit into this whole scheme? We have the Rockefellers, the what about the Rothschilds. Are they part of the Group of Eight of Rome?

Interesting post though....

posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:07 AM
reply to post by Josephus23

Some of ATS's most gifted minds have been hashing this out on this thread

It really begins on the second page and there are about 21 pages of very quality oriented discussion on Rome, and what predated Rome, as well as where and possibly who the Puppet Master might be.

I don't name him as such but the name is brought up.

The only reason I won't go into more specific detail, publicly or privately, is I would not want to appear to be conspiring with anyone.

In other words I don't want to create a conspiracy, or find myself involved in a conspiracy to get to the bottom of and solve a conspiracy.

I hope that makes sense to you.

You will love that thread though, the ATS Subject Matter Expert is a principle contributor to it along with me, and a couple of other very gifted, well read, and insightful minds.


posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:16 AM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

As Romes Leading Moral Authority, it does fall on me to straighten this stuff out?

I got to say that the statement threw me for a loop?

Are you like the right hand Cardinal to the actual Pope or...
The actual pope or something, because that would be cool.

Seriously let's U2U sometime so the we can get more in depth about this.

posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Kratos40
reply to post by ancientfuturist

So where do the Rothschilds fit into this whole scheme? We have the Rockefellers, the what about the Rothschilds. Are they part of the Group of Eight of Rome?

Interesting post though....

The Rothschilds are Papal Bankers, their titles also are gifted to them by Rome.

The House of Dan has fulfilled many functions for Rome and the Vatican throughout the centuries, including terrorizing half of Europe into converting to Christianity as the Viking Horde.

They are adaptive.

The Council of Eight, originates out of the last surviving original Roman State of Seborga, and is likely the first parlimentary system ever developed.

Seborga also gave rize to the Knights Templar, which later became the Free Masons.

It is also reputed to be the resting place of the Roman Imperial Sceptre as well as the Holy Sepulchur.

It's minted currency also interestingly enough, happens to have the highest exchange rate in the world.

Rothschild's other main value to Rome is the fact that the family co-opted the Zionist Movement and still controls it to this day.

Israel and the Zionists play an important role, in getting world events to mimick biblical prophecy in the drive to a one world government.

He is though a puppet on Roman strings and not the driving force many people imagine him and the Zionists to be.

posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:19 AM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

What do you mean it's highly unlikely I can understand legal terminology in my own language when I've got a degree in Politics and Law from a British university?! Crass condescension or what?
As I said at the start of my post, I actually read the Order! Do you know what an Order in Council is, or isn't?
Smug patronising gob#e like this doesn't even begin to address the substance of my post, it just confirms my accusations. But then I could hardly expect any better from someone who wrote such an OP as this .
There are threads and posters of an altogether higher calibre than this on this forum and I shall be confining my attention to them in future.

posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:21 AM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Thanks for the heads up about this.

I consider myself much more well versed than the average individual about this subject, but the disinformation is SO THICK that it takes diligence, patient, and true luck to come anywhere hear the truth.

I couldn't thank you enough for both noticing my posts, and realizing that I am worthy of being pointed in a good direction.

Peese man. Much obliged.

posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:22 AM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Nice lay out! Sums up very well. Most still won't believe it and happily are content to believe they are free despite all the signs around them to the contrary

posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:22 AM

Originally posted by Josephus23
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

As Romes Leading Moral Authority, it does fall on me to straighten this stuff out?

I got to say that the statement threw me for a loop?

Are you like the right hand Cardinal to the actual Pope or...
The actual pope or something, because that would be cool.

Seriously let's U2U sometime so the we can get more in depth about this.

As the self appointed auctorictas principis, one of six titles held by a classic Roman Emperor, I have assumed the role of Rome's leading moral authority.

That is what the title auctorictas principis means.

So I am self obligated to deal with this on a moral level, and to act with moral authority in that regard.

The sadder truth, is I don't see anyone else stepping up to the plate to save the world, so someone had better.

It's not like I have anything better to do!

posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:28 AM

Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Nice lay out! Sums up very well. Most still won't believe it and happily are content to believe they are free despite all the signs around them to the contrary

The truth is we are fast approaching a point and a critical juncture, where a lot of people are beginning to suspect something is fundamentally wrong.

There is hope that through that adversity that more and more people like you and I and many others, can seriously get even more and more people to question and consider these things.

It's a pretty harsh reality and scenario, and you can't really blame people for wanting to role over and go back to sleep, hoping it's all just a bad dream.

Imagine what the world could really be like, if we all confronted these skeletons in our collective closet and dared to dream of a better world.

Thanks for posting friend.

posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:31 AM
YEa, Bigfoot, I applaud you for speaking up....I was amazed at some of this but there are so many strange ideas afloat that I read it all through to see who would confront it....In my opinion, anyone dumbth enough to believe that people would put up their own money to wage war in the American Revolution to become slaves to Rome or England is just plain balmy...whole thread dissolves into total disbelief at that point!

posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:34 AM
reply to post by Bigfoot73

Maybe you will do better over there bro.


Proto is a good guy from what I have seen, but he is not afraid to call out ignorance when he sees it, and if you could let down your rhetorical attacks for a second then you will see that he is trying to sharpen you like a hot flame can pound and polish steel to a razor sharp edge.

Never take anything personally dude.

It my be you who just misunderstands what is being said to you and then you just feel like and ass.

Instead of waiting for someone else to extend the olive branch and make things better, then why not do it yourself.

History has proven time and time again that cooperation yields much better results than competition.

Look at mine and Proto's posts. Anything but agreeable, but when we listened, then we both learned and experienced true communication.

That is the best way to learn man.
It's not as fun as an adrenaline rush, but it's a better way to learn.

Stop, listen and grok before expressing an emotional outburst.


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