Genera (creator)
Opera (sustainer)
Demoli (renewer)

Latin explanatory for the "om" (Roman AVM):
Agni
Varuna
Mithra

alternative to Latin DEO
from Greek deomai 'sought/petitioned' ('to beg/plead')
Greek THEOS 'a concept/idea'

EL 'to/toward' (an intention)
ELaH 'objective/goal' (a noun)
+ possessives I (my) IK (your) INU (our) IM (every)

And there are many other religions (every religion I know of) that support it, too. Several of which are older than Christianity (i.e. pre-2000 years ago)

It is non-intelligent design that is new, and attached to a single religion -- atheism. That we have such contempt in the western world for those who don' t buy into atheism says a lot in contrast to the words spoken so far as a state religion in the US and Europe.

The same people who say they embrace all religions, have the "Coexist" bumper stickers, are quick to point out that you're an idiot if you believe in a God who created the universe. And Christians, Muslims, Hindus and Zoroastrians are the close minded ones. Because they believe they're right. What's the definition of irony?

Originally posted by junglejake

It is non-intelligent design that is new, and attached to a single religion -- atheism.

What? That is news to me! Atheism is as old as Christianity, even religion.

The same people who say they embrace all religions, have the "Coexist" bumper stickers, are quick to point out that you're an idiot if you believe in a God who created the universe.

But what about intelligence?

And Christians, Muslims, Hindus and Zoroastrians are the close minded ones. Because they believe they're right. What's the definition of irony?

Well yeah the irony is... ah never mind you figure it out LOL.

[edit on 6-2-2010 by Deaf Alien]

this is the first time im hearing something as bold as this actually.
i mean, the ID movement gets nothing but atheists barking at ID being a front FOR the christian faith. i have to actually use this article now for a debate with my mates. thanks.

The "Gospel in the wilderness" is seen in the so-called "Yah glyphs" in which Ye'aH is a stick figure being bent up (resurrected) by EL condescending and is then seen to fly upon the sky (with a crown)!

To the Hebrews the idea of Messiah (MShIaCh 'to rub with') was that the LORD or named 'GOD' of the covenant at Sinai would come into the Creation as the Creatures and ultimately reign upon the Sabbath, but apparently the dying for resurrection part was not understood by the Judaean people he came into among the Roman empire.

Christianity failed to grasp the future Messianic reign from the "Jewish" perceived Hebrew and since coming to have displaced the times and laws now sees with the same shortness of view then -as though sabbath were past- and now we have passed the commandment law.

[edit on 2010/2/6 by YeHUaH ELaHaYNU]

Well thought out, deafalien
From The Critias to Pigmalion
these non religous ID themes
keep going on as memes

Originally posted by maria_stardust
Interesting to note that every single one of the sources you've mentioned are philosophers. So, yes, the premise of intelligent design falls squarely in the realm of metaphysics, and to a certain extent, faith.

Metaphysics covers things like ESP, meditation, telekinesis, fortune-telling, etc. ID theory on the other hand is claimed to be rooted in logical lines of thinking, much more than it is rooted in emotional reasoning or "faith".

Philosophy does not seem like an offshoot of "metaphysics" to me at all. How was Plato for example involved in metaphysics? I don't see why philosophy requires any faith whatsoever any more than science requires "faith" in science.

ID theory has much more to do with philosophy than religion, and philosophy involves logical thinking. Therefore ID theory is not religious and should not be treated as a religion.

ID is what the great monolithic building projects ancient reveal was being acknowledged believed and conveyed by the earliest civilizations,
and it is what the petroglyphs are revealing was the real meaning of the iconic words that are the basis of the worlds 'religious' Scriptures!

Some thoughts:

I don't think anyone accusing ID of being a front for Christianity actually believes that Christians first came up with the idea of ID. None-the-less, in most cases in the Western world, ID is indeed a mechanism for people to defend their belief in Christianity, which is why the debate is seen as a Christianity vs. evolution one.

In reality, it's a rational thought vs. superstition debate. The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines superstition as:

1 a : a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b : an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition
2 : a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary

Definition number 2 sums it up, really, "a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary." ID is superstition, regardless of whether or not it was first conceived by Christians (obviously not the case), Philosophers, or Cro-Magnon man.

ID was first witnessed with an Eclipse of the Sun by the Moon (as testified by the oldest petroglyphs) realizing they are the same size and precisely line up at times, which became the iconic word "GOD" (EL).

Plotting the Year through Equinoxes and Solstices while counting Lunations revealed that the Lunar and Solar divergences and convergences could only be simply accounted for by mediating them with Weeks (the only Continual uninterrupted Constant).

The placing of Lunations (Months) in Windows or 'houses' of the Zodiacal fixed stars -for quick sight reference- produced a Calendar, and over time revealed the slow precession of the Equinoxes.

But the real great ID is -the gift of Handwriting- that the AlphaBet mediating all languages is a connect-the-dots of those fixed stars assigned consonants, and the seven wandering planets visible to the unaided eye are the vowel aspirations!

they were sounded from highest to lowest in 7 tones thus intoning the Name of Y'aH:
iy eh uw oh uh ah ghah

[edit on 2010/2/7 by YeHUaH ELaHaYNU]

Originally posted by maria_stardust
You guys can wax poetic on subject of intelligent design all you want, but it is still a matter of philosophical conjecture. Until someone can test its premise through the scientific method that's where it will remain.

Origins by evolutionary process is also 'philosphical conjecture' until someone can test the premise.

Fact is Neo-Darwinian Evolutionists can no more scientifically 'test' this premise than Intelligent Design' advocates...
...unless they have a time machine.

Micro-evolutionary change is observable, origin is not...
...so Neo-Darwinian Evolutionists must also rely on faith or philosophy.