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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
Did the Bush Administration know about it in advance? Maybe.
Originally posted by alaskan
Originally posted by dereks
you have the choice - if you think it is a gross invasion of privacy then dont fly
Not everybody cares enough to look into this to even bother telling their children about it.
Children can't just opt out of flying when they're family is going somewhere.
Not everybody can afford to drive cross-country, or cruise over-seas.
These aren't going to stop at airports, the people pushing them have been saying for years that they want to put them everywhere where "security" is an "issue."
Football stadiums, courthouses, amusement parks, the post office, state borders, and on and on and on...
How many thousands of people said it was crazy to think that cell phone text messages would be kept?
How many times were we told our email archives wouldn't be sold?
What makes you think that something like nude images would be any different?
Why do you hold airport personal at such high esteem that they'd never do something immoral?
You really think those guys/ladies are somehow morally immaculate? They'd never think bad thoughts about anyone, and they'd never sell exclusive celebrity nudes or images of children for big bucks, because they're perfectly nice, good people. All of them. Nothing to worry about, everybody but them terrorists loves us, right?
You're in denial. Snap out of it.
[edit on 7-1-2010 by alaskan]
Originally posted by TheIrvy
Honestly, I despair. We're living 1984, having words banned from our vocabularies, watching what we say incase we're punished for saying the wrong thing, allowing our wii fit to tell us how to exercise, being watched and recorded almost every time we leave our homes, forced to line up and be searched and stripped just so we can visit our relatives, scared and manipulated into giving up every freedom that makes life worth living, poisoned by our food, drugged up to the eyeballs in the name of medicine, and you don't care. Your more concerned with whether or not that security guard will laugh at what size your willy is than you are about being treated like property.
When will you wake up? How much will they have to take from you before you say No More? Have we become so passive, so oblivious that we just say Thank you Sir, Can I have another?
I hate quoting Star Trek, but Sir Stewart has a way with words. Why is nobody saying "This far, no further, and I will make them pay for what they've done"?
Originally posted by lynn112
I see all this back and forth & just wonder, when can we finally say it is 100% safe to fly? Will we all have to eventually disrobe and waltz through security in the buff? Will we have to have full cavity searches?
When is enough going to be enough? Who gets to determine when this has gone from protection to privacy violation & most importantly, are we all really willing to leave such an important descision up to the jerks in D.C.?
I'm sorry, but I agree with the poster who called this the latest "monster under our bed." We are a nation ruled by fear now & this is just one more liberty we are willing to part with all in the name of feeling safe when in reality, that will never happen.
FYI, I also agree with the poster who said anyone who thinks this is "a okay" should step up and volunteer to have themselves scanned & then posted online for the world to see. I get the distinct feeling that some people will suddenly find fault with this plan.
Originally posted by Revolution-2012
It should be anyone illegal for this to be performed on anyone under the legal age of consent.
However.... I don't care if they scan me, I have nothing to hide.
Aside from the gross invasion of your privacy every time you want to fly somewhere?
If that's the case, I guess you won't mind if the goverment sets up cameras all over your house, and watches you or your children have a shower to prevent "terrorism" I mean what's the big deal right?
So when they screen children with this, how is this not child porn?
...You are Rationalizing.
And when you do so in public as you are - you only ruin things for everyone else in the country.
Originally posted by patmac
Is it possible that these machines are actually NOT intended to be used to search for contraband, or to look at people's naughty bits? Are these scanners being set up for something else? Here are a few questions
Can these machines be used to determine who has, and who hasn't been microchipped? Or rather, can they also equip a stronger RFID reader within the system? Does it already have one? Is this a feature that we overlooked?
Originally posted by Morningglory
What about tattoos? Will they come out clear in the image? Or might they be blurry and look like something strapped to my body. Would I be escorted off to a little room? Would they catalog our tattoos? I don't like the feeling I'm getting here.
Originally posted by whoshotJR
reply to post by alaskan
You delete the image that you played around with the colors because that is not relevant to your argument. They wont be doing that to images, they will just be looking at the top ones you showed.