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Originally posted by adifferentbreed
reply to post by serenesupreme
I'm not playing the victim......funny you should try and twist it that way. I was pointing out the ability of political correctness to be brought into play. If I think gay rights parades aren't appropriate, I hate gays, if I disagree with Obama I'm a racist, pure and simple victim mentality based on the ability of people to not be able accept differences. I don't have to like what you think, do, or believe, as you have the same right.
Should it be accepted as fact that since we disagree on this you in fact hate all straight people? Kinda silly huh? Yet for some groups, the moment you disagee.........poof you're a "insert label here". This type of thinking has pretty much made alot of those labels useless. P.s, I live on an island and generally don't wear shoes, if ya have some comfy flip flops.......yup, I still get discriminated against, large, heavily tattooed Pagans don't get highly thought of around here.....
Originally posted by adifferentbreed
I didn't say anything with malice, I simply pointed out if you disagree you are labeled. I live my life happy with the choices I have made, but the moment I would try to push those beliefs on anyone else, I would be wrong. If you're gay, cool, everyone should have someone to love, but the moment it has to be accepted by everyone, it becomes something more than love. If you deny that some people don't have an agenda and are trying to obtain special, not equal, rights, that's your opinion. I don't "hate" any group of people, I hate groups agendas and unfortunately that includes lots of people. I'd prefer to live aboard my boat, happily strumming the blues while everyone else enjoyed their life in what ever way they see fit. However, when their agenda pops into my little world, I do have a right to voice my opinion. We're never gonna see eye to eye on this, not even close, , which is a shame. However, if labeling me something makes others happy, well I've been called worse with no ill affects. Have a nice day, I think it's time for some music....
Originally posted by adifferentbreed
reply to post by davesidious
Again, you don't think it's a leap comparing the two.......gay rights is so far removed from the civil rights marches. Again, sorry you feel that way. I also stated I thought heterosexual displays were the same thing....deviant. However, choose what you wish to believe, some people need to play the viftim I guess.
Originally posted by adifferentbreed
reply to post by OmegaLogos
To me, the main differece would be, gay people can vote, not be made to sit in the back of the bus, they don'have seperate hotels, water fountains, restaurants etc. The biggest issue seems to be marriage. Handle it with the vote, anything else is not going to work. I don't know why I have to explain the difference on parades but here goes.....BDSM have no business in a public display, nor does nudity, parodies of religion or anything else. If you want to be taken seriosly as a group, act serious.....better pr and picking and cjhosing your battles would be a better way of handling thingts. I know again, I'm wrong and as I stated before I don't think these things are o.k. for a heterosexual parade either. In fact, we have on average 11 parades a year, on the island where I live....neither gay nor straight......just celebrations. Whatever happened to good clean fun? I can't honestly be the only one on ATS to feel this way, at least I shared my beliefs. As I stated before if someone wants to be gay, cool everyone needs someone to love......I just don't have the need to trivialize mine between my wife and me through outlandish actions. Have a nice day......really have a nice day. We're never gonna see eye to eye, so rather than arguing, you asked my opinion, you have it, lets just all enjoy the day we have......even if it is ungodly cold here today.
Originally posted by neo5842
Ok, not that i am either religious nor gay, but could this be some kind of explanation.
In the Bible Leviticus 20:13
"'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
the bible leviticus 20:13
If some people are as fanatical about their religion as the bible would suggest they should be, that would be one explanation. I Also know that some say it doesn't mean it literally, but i think it is perfectly clear on what it is saying.
Secondly some people are not necessary Homophobic just anti gay, as a result of something that happened to them as a child, by a gay person, I am speaking from personal experience. But i am not homophobic, just anti gay, I know its wrong to tare everyone with the same brush, but its not easy to after havering a traumatic experience such as this. I dismiss the saying that people are homophobic because they are in denial of their own sexuality, although i do accept that some might.