Spectacular Phenomena In The Sky. What Is It?

Originally posted by fatdeeman

Originally posted by ahemot
No proof that this was a rocket.
NEVER EVER A ROCKET HAS PRODUCED SUCH PHENOMENON.

And you are?

Presumably someone who has witnessed every single rocket launch ever!

There is plenty of proof that it's a rocket, you just don't want to acknowledge it.

What proof? Where is rocket flight data? Where is radar data?

New "rocket-UFO video" (???) from Russia, today.

This would be easy to explain as a Plesetsk rocket, but if so it’s going backwards. A puzzle.

Probably has no connection with the Norway-Bulava spiral, but who can say…?

Chelyabinsk views rocket-looking light show, but moving right-to-left.
www.youtube.com...

Comments say it was observed over a wide area including
Yekaterinburg, Yoburg, Lesniy, and Kurgan. Approx 17:43 local time

Story and photo here: lenta.ru...

Search on Челябинск НЛО

Originally posted by ahemot

Originally posted by fatdeeman

Originally posted by ahemot
No proof that this was a rocket.
NEVER EVER A ROCKET HAS PRODUCED SUCH PHENOMENON.

And you are?

Presumably someone who has witnessed every single rocket launch ever!

There is plenty of proof that it's a rocket, you just don't want to acknowledge it.

What proof? Where is rocket flight data? Where is radar data?

I'm sure if people keep pushing, and not accepting the rocket excuse, they will create, and distribute any date you would like to see to back their story.

Originally posted by Blender
One more question from me. Why did the Russian military deny any knowlege of a rocket being tested at first, then when this story really started getting big, all of the sudden all of this documentation comes out about Norway having advanced knowlege.

If it was a Russian missile test, the Norweigan military would have surley known about it. Why would they play dumb at first, claiming to have no idea what this phenomena was, only to renig and say, yes, it was a rocket, we knew about it. All is well and good. No cause for alarm. That does not add up.

There was a warning not to navigate certain areas prior to any of this happening. (you know because of the missile they were testing)

Can you people read? I already know some of you aren't good at believing evidence over your own silly wants but this is getting silly.

CREATE that conspiracy people! make it right up
I'll shop a few spaceships coming through and we are SET

Originally posted by Blender
One more question from me. Why did the Russian military deny any knowlege of a rocket being tested at first, then when this story really started getting big, all of the sudden all of this documentation comes out about Norway having advanced knowlege.

If it was a Russian missile test, the Norweigan military would have surley known about it. Why would they play dumb at first, claiming to have no idea what this phenomena was, only to renig and say, yes, it was a rocket, we knew about it. All is well and good. No cause for alarm. That does not add up.

Youre right ! i think something came down, not up.... roswell Russian style?

[edit on 10-12-2009 by zoomer72]

reply to post by JimOberg


It seems that this phenomenon is spreading around the world, there have been previous sightings in Tomsk and China, and now in Norway and Chelyabinsk.


[edit on 10-12-2009 by ahemot]

Originally posted by zoomer72
well i got on question pop up in mind for those missile theory defenders...

if this was indeed a missile launch gone bad why didnt they self destruct it when they noticed it went out of control? it could of hit residential area,satellite, ISS? Martians? god?
why did they let supposedly let it "fly" around for a good while uncontrolled making its "spiral" why?

As a matter of design, Russian military missiles don't carry self-destruct charges. They sometimes explode, but from their own propellant.

After all, who is it going to fall on? Polar bears? It was flying eastwards out over the Arctic Ocean, headed away from Europe entirely. Stretch a string on a globe from the White Sea to central Kamchatka.

Originally posted by '___'omino

Originally posted by Blender
One more question from me. Why did the Russian military deny any knowlege of a rocket being tested at first, then when this story really started getting big, all of the sudden all of this documentation comes out about Norway having advanced knowlege.

If it was a Russian missile test, the Norweigan military would have surley known about it. Why would they play dumb at first, claiming to have no idea what this phenomena was, only to renig and say, yes, it was a rocket, we knew about it. All is well and good. No cause for alarm. That does not add up.

There was a warning not to navigate certain areas prior to any of this happening. (you know because of the missile they were testing)

Can you people read? I already know some of you aren't good at believing evidence over your own silly wants but this is getting silly.

CREATE that conspiracy people! make it right up
I'll shop a few spaceships coming through and we are SET

That didn't answer my question at ALL.

I said, if there WAS warning not to navigate certian areas, then why did the Norweigan and Russian militarys claim to have no knowlege of anything going on that morning? Only to later say that oh, indeed it was a rocket, and indeed we were warned?

To me thats akin to the American military first reporting that a flying saucer crashed in Roswell, only to later say oh, in fact it was a weather baloon.

[edit on 10-12-2009 by Blender]

Originally posted by ahemot
reply to post by JimOberg

 

It seems that this phenomenon is spreading around the world, there have been previous sightings in Tomsk and China, and now in Norway and Chelyabinsk.


[edit on 10-12-2009 by ahemot]

When? Dates? Photos? Videos? Contribution to the thread beyond speculation?
You mean there have been more then one failed rocket test!? NO WAY

reply to post by JimOberg


If it was launched towards the east from the White sea how did it end up over Norway?

Do they launch the missiles from the white Sea with a westerly trajectory with flight path over NORAD/Canadian airspace to hit the range in Kamchatka?

If they do that sounds to me like a recipe for disaster and big time diplomatic fall out if not a retaliatory strike?

reply to post by '___'omino


Remember in cold war the americans and europeans would test stuff and just say its the russians. the same goes today.

Originally posted by Blender

That didn't answer my question at ALL.

I said, if there WAS warning not to navigate certian areas, then why did the Norweigan and Russian militarys claim to have no knowlege of anything going on that morning? Only to later say that oh, indeed it was a rocket, and indeed we were warned?

To me thats akin to the American military first reporting that a flying saucer crashed in Roswell, only to later say oh, in fact it was a weather baloon.

Maybe because it was announced to occur five hundred miles away?

Which, BTW, it did, and flew off eastwards even farther away from Norway -- never headed towards Norway, never in norwegian airspace, what's the problem?

Or didn't you notice that?

reply to post by '___'omino


Could you please just respect the fact that people still have questions regardless of the rocket claims, or did nothing extraordinairy happen in your opinion that would warrant those questions?

reply to post by '___'omino

There's a Chinese video of the phenomena earlier in the thread.

Do us all a favor and go find it yourself.

Originally posted by '___'omino

Originally posted by ahemot
reply to post by JimOberg

 

It seems that this phenomenon is spreading around the world, there have been previous sightings in Tomsk and China, and now in Norway and Chelyabinsk.


[edit on 10-12-2009 by ahemot]

When? Dates? Photos? Videos? Contribution to the thread beyond speculation?
You mean there have been more then one failed rocket test!? NO WAY

I think majority of the public know what a missile test looks like. As always... We should understand that. most people are straight outta cold war and have seen these things. how come all of a sudden we have multiple sightings of various perfect spirals going on.

reply to post by JimOberg


Sorry doesn't match the event in norway.

Originally posted by JimOberg

Originally posted by Blender

That didn't answer my question at ALL.

I said, if there WAS warning not to navigate certian areas, then why did the Norweigan and Russian militarys claim to have no knowlege of anything going on that morning? Only to later say that oh, indeed it was a rocket, and indeed we were warned?

To me thats akin to the American military first reporting that a flying saucer crashed in Roswell, only to later say oh, in fact it was a weather baloon.

Maybe because it was announced to occur five hundred miles away?

Which, BTW, it did, and flew off eastwards even farther away from Norway -- never headed towards Norway, never in norwegian airspace, what's the problem?

Or didn't you notice that?

Ok, apperenty a couple of you are having trouble understanding what I am asking. Let me put it as simply as possible.

When this story broke, both Norweigan military, AND Russian military denied any knowlege of a rocket being tested. Later on, that very same day, BOTH said they had advanced knowlege of the test taking place.

Why the initial denial only to be followed up with confermation? Could it be that as the story went up the ladder, they made the decision that they could not very well stick with the "well, we don't know what it was".

[edit on 10-12-2009 by Blender]

Originally posted by '___'omino

Originally posted by ahemot
reply to post by JimOberg

 

It seems that this phenomenon is spreading around the world, there have been previous sightings in Tomsk and China, and now in Norway and Chelyabinsk.


[edit on 10-12-2009 by ahemot]

When? Dates? Photos? Videos? Contribution to the thread beyond speculation?
You mean there have been more then one failed rocket test!? NO WAY

See my earlier posts with still photos from China and Tomsk, and follow links to Youtube videos, where you can find more information.

Originally posted by Jordan River

Originally posted by '___'omino

Originally posted by ahemot
reply to post by JimOberg

 

It seems that this phenomenon is spreading around the world, there have been previous sightings in Tomsk and China, and now in Norway and Chelyabinsk.


[edit on 10-12-2009 by ahemot]

When? Dates? Photos? Videos? Contribution to the thread beyond speculation?
You mean there have been more then one failed rocket test!? NO WAY

I think majority of the public know what a missile test looks like. As always... We should understand that. most people are straight outta cold war and have seen these things. how come all of a sudden we have multiple sightings of various perfect spirals going on.

second that! i grew up in 70:s 80:s seen both soviet and us missiles propaganda test launches on tv etc, seen in the army air to ground( edit: meant SAMS ) missiles launched when i was serving and you know what... not once any perfect spirals or phenomena like this in norway....

[edit on 10-12-2009 by zoomer72]

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did the keebler elves take these pictures? They are so tiny...i can't see anything!


But WOW - that looks cool. One hell of an expensive fireworks show