The British National Party (BNP) - What do they need to do to win your vote?

Originally posted by Polynomial C
The Most radical group in the UK are NOT the Muslims .. the most radical group are the BNP ..

.. Their whole ideology is base of "- KEEP ENGLAND WHITE" ..

.. they are nationalist and like any other "good" nationalist they depend on the propaganda to lure people into their mafia organization ..

.. they are xenophobic, anti-semitic and racist scumbags..

. Vote for them and you will get a whole Civil war .. a nation divided because of the color of their skin..

What a load of crap - you're opinion was on the MSM already - oh .. let me guess, thats where you got it from??

The media, owned by the controllers have bashed, and smeared and done whatever they can to make these guys look bad - because they are a real threat to the NWO's political control.

The only thing wrong with the BNP is they are anti NWO - they probably don't even know why they are being attacked so much - who their enemy is.

The idea of a national CULTURE is absolutely vital to having a united nation!!!


The BNP are not anti racial - they simply want people to have the same CUTLURE that existed in britain for hundreds of years.

Allowing uncontrolled high levels of immigration, and allowing those who enter the country to dictate what is socially acceptable and what is not is to totally sell out your cultural and national identity.

It is nothing to do with race - if people were to totally integrate, and come at a manageble rate where they were a minority - then there would be no problem.

But the NWO want to flood it with immigrants - this destroys the unity of the country - its heart and soul, and the reasons why people would want to fioght for it.

Without a national culture - a generally accepted way of doing things in the country, values, behaviours and standards - then a nation is bereft of its soul - and who will fight for it?? No-one will.

Such is the plan of the NWO - they want to destroy britains national pride by smothering it.

I am not British - I am not racist - I am anti NWO - and if people can't clearly see that unregulated immigration and bending to compromise on values of immigrants is going to destroy Britains heart.

Simply put - immigrants need to bend to the prevailing culture of their destination nation - if they don't like it - then don't go there.

For example I am not going to move to Saudi or to Iran anytime soon - having said that - if their population is happy living that way, then who am I to judge it.

For those who keep claiming Britain is losing it's national identity, please explain to me what exactly you consider to be Britain's national identity.

It's the BNP's racism which would stop me voting for them. Plain and simple.

I've heard a lot of remarks by people claiming that the Second World War was fought for our freedoms bla bla bla and how now the country's gone down the drain with immigration etc.

I think they should learn some history. They should remember all the Poles who fought in the Allied armies and died especially at Monte Cassino. Only then for them to be betrayed at the end of the war and have their country swallowed up by the Soviet Union. Many who fought in the Battle of Britain were foreign pilots, who had come from countries occupied by the Nazis. Also the Indians, Africans and many others who fought in our armies and died for our country! Many seem to wax lyrical about the Second World War, yet forgot if it wasn't for their contribution we wouldn't have won.

Already voting them, the country is run by anti-white socialists and they need to pay.

Originally posted by Kram09
For those who keep claiming Britain is losing it's national identity, please explain to me what exactly you consider to be Britain's national identity.

Being able to speak, understand and write the English language would possibly be a good starting point?

Agreeing to abide by the laws of the land maybe another, along with not being offended by English traditions like Christmas, the Nativity, Guy Fawkes Night, the Last Night of the Proms and proudly flying the Union Flag?

In 20 years time we will all look back, when the country really is on its knees, and say to ourselves "What on earth were we thinking deliberately encouraging multiculturalism and social inclusion?"

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Labour could hardly be called socialists. And an anti-white, white majority parliament is really something else.

Never would I vote for them, but I understand why people do, and when the government stop being scared and shying away from any real discussion and action on immigration and british peoples fears, then I believe the bnp would be yesterdays news.

Well they just got my national vote after spineless-cameron backed out of the Lisburn referendum!
I voted BNP in the Euro elections and was on the fence about the general election.
After carefully reading up their policies and how they've changed I've joined them.
I always hear this bs story going around that they don't like the Irish. Well, I'm nearly half Irish (catholic) and asked them directly on their views of the Irish (both Republic and Loyalist). No problem on either counts.

If you read their policies the BNP don't have a problem with legal immigration, which will mirror something the USA has (points based, those with skills, education etc).

bnp.org.uk...

I previously voted UKIP, but they're nothing more than a release valve to take votes off the BNP. Indeed they offered to disband and join the tories only recently. Not for me thanks.

The BNP want to get Britain back to being a productive nation and away from the this bs of being a service industry. Fair play in my eyes on that one.
They've got some baggage from the early days of being associated with the National Front people. Well on that one they did split from the NF and formed the BNP in 1982 because they were going nowhere and disagreed with the NFs white supremacy and extreme views.

In a nutshell the BNP want to kickstart the heavy-industry that once made the nation stand on its own two feet and re-tool the country into being independent alignment.

bnp.org.uk...

Small Government (less than half what we have right now) minimal cash being sent on wasteful spending overseas and at home.
They don't want the over-expensive army fighting in futile and wasteful wars overseas. Instead bringing them home and guarding the UK itself from the EU. A smaller citizen-militia based on the swiss concept and pulling out from the UN and the EU.

bnp.org.uk...

This is what attracts me to the BNP, they don't want to be part of some big 'I'm the baddass' Nation club like the EU or UN. They just want Britain to be left alone and get on as a nation trading with others, without all this 'You must help so and so or go here bs'.
They are also semi-aware of the NWO elite plans to screw with independent nations.
Many times Nick Griffin has mentioned the one-world-government threat and his oppostion. Some might say he's on their pay-roll but I don't think so. He's conviction shows no sign of being bribed, unless mind-controlled and I don't think so in this case.

The only slight problem I've got against the BNP is they are authoritarian which puts some people off voting for them. As I'm ex-armed forces I've seen how discipline can be put to good work without being excessive or hurtful. The trouble is most civilians are scared of death penalty's and corporal punishment, yet still wonder why there are gangs of lads running amok in city streets and estates...

Nick Griffin isn't a bad leader, he's not the best, but I think he's doing the best he can.
So I'd say, in my opinion, that the BNPs changed from what they were in the 80s and early 90s.
If you trace the Labour party back to its roots you'll find that they were formed from violent rioters from the 1800s. Nowadays they are made up of crypto-communists and disallusioned marxists. Sorry if that offends some of you pinkos but Labour are riddled socialism to the core and put themselves above the nation.
The Tory's were my prime choice except the direction Cameron is taking them in is away from the right and into the centre left. They buy into the global warming scam and have unnationalised themselves.
Being as pro-Euro as the Labour party. Same goes for the Lib Dems.

Well, I've rambled on enough. I won't post the url but I think people ought to make up their own mind by going to the bnp website and checking the rest of the policies for themselves.

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Originally posted by Solomons
Great Britain was nothing to be proud of before the problem regarding immigration started either. In any case there are many more parties that would like a more strict approach to immigration, you don't have to vote for thugs and racists like the BNP to address that issue. Why not vote for the english democrats? Im scottish,but they seem to be level headed and have some good ideas.

My father voted for them for exactly the same reasons you stated. He bought into the lies and brainwashing the media fed him...

Originally posted by Solomons
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I thought some members of the BNP argued about the numbers involved in the holocaust and not whether the holocaust actually happened? haven't really looked into that aspect of them so i may be wrong. In any case like i said if immigration is someones top priority then there are many more parties to choose from. Anyone with some common sense would choose them over the BNP. I still don't think they should be banned or not allowed to say their piece though no matter how repugnant.

Indeed on that note members of the Labour party are crypto-communists and marxists, an ideology that massacred many times as many Christians in 1930s Russia! This doesn't sit well with me either btw.

Originally posted by Selahobed
As myself comming from jewish descent, the thing that stops me voting BNP is the anti semitism and holocaust denial of some mebers of the party...

If they could redress that i would vote for them.. I may be jewish, but my skin does not hold up too well to the sun lol, im whiter than most whities lol, and that is just me, and im in oz at the mo untill next week, and cant wait to cool my touche in the frost lol.
There are sikhs, hindus born in england who value value england as much their own lives, and to not include them, or anyone else for that matter, is wrong, plain and simple...

You come to england, you adopt our ways.. If you expect us to change for you, forget it. Tollerance goes both ways, but england is NOT negotiable..

Show me where the BNP is anti-semitic.
If anything they've taken flak for being too supportive of Israel and not of Palestine. For this reason the BNP are often called zionists rather than anti-semites!

Incidentally while we're at it. Israel is one of the most watertight nationalist countries out there. Indeed demographics and immigration are very strict to ensure the survival of Israel.
Why is such a bad thing for the BNP to have a similar mindset of looking after their own?
Sela you're much smarter than this...

Originally posted by valiant
Never would I vote for them, but I understand why people do, and when the government stop being scared and shying away from any real discussion and action on immigration and british peoples fears, then I believe the bnp would be yesterdays news.

Which we both know isn't going to happen as long as an EU ideology is present in the big three political parties...

Raider of Truth - Out of interest who would be your second choice for using your vote?

Would you consider UKIP or the English Democrats?

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What is national identity? Good question actually.
So called multiculturalism is not some delightful racial mix. It's the wholesale settlement of LARGE areas (whole cities even) by a particular racial group. Integration is actively avoided. Let me take you to part of a northern city......
The usual bakers and butchers etc have been replaced by sari shops, halal shops, shops with Asian foods and sacks of everything outside.
The gardens are treated like rubbish tips.
The churches are being replaced by mosques and calls to prayer.
There are regular religious processions down the main road.
Headscarves and tunics and the odd burqa are the fashion.
The older people cannot speak English.
There are fireworks at all times of day celebrating family events
There is a known drug culture with a local 'Mr Big'.
The roads are like the wild west in terms of the driving. Drivers will stop and have a chat/do u turns in the middle of a busy road. Young Asian men particularly will cut you up at lights - they can't stand to be behind anyone.
The local councillors are all Muslim Asian (fair enough I suppose).
The local police seem hamstrung. Probably wary of appearing 'racist'.
Now not everything above is 'bad'. It's just the sum total. The whole feel of the area is alien.
In the middle of this area is a housing scheme built specifically for Asians who were however not interested. The non Asian residents refer to it as 'a little corner of England'. Some of those residents are of various nationalities who settled in the UK after the war. That should tell you something.
A few miles away a whole city has been taken over by this culture. The indigenous culture (and by that I mean people of various colours/backgrounds who have adapted in the UK) feel threatened and alienated. Job seekers are increasingly required to have Urdu or Punjabi. A friend felt she couldn't send her daughter to college there because the atmosphere was so intimidating.
The other factor is the incredible growth of such areas.

That's what myself and others who are 'on the same page' are talking about.



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The above post sums up the problem very well.

I note that Unicorn lives in the North of the UK. Well I live in the south and let me assure you things are no better down here!

It is due to this "social engineering" that more and more people are questioning whether the big 3 (Torries, Labour & Lib Dems) are worth voting for, as ALL 3 positively encourage multiculturalism.

I think that the truth of the matter is that the MP's within these parties lead such comfortable lives that rather than risk being labelled with the slur of "Racist!" they just sit on the fence and hope things will sort themselves out without any intervention!

The BNP, whilst not by a long way being perfect, at least have the courage to say that they would do if they ever came to power. That goes a long way in my book.....

Yes indeed. And I think it needs to be said that these are not just quirky little communities where you can nip out for a curry or to stock up your spices. They are communities on steroids growing rapidly. I'll try to get some statistics.

Originally posted by WatchRider

Originally posted by Selahobed

Show me where the BNP is anti-semitic.
If anything they've taken flak for being too supportive of Israel and not of Palestine. For this reason the BNP are often called zionists rather than anti-semites!



There you go some off the flags on display in loyalist areas Belfast..

Fioxhoundone - I have the sudden urge to stand on my chair and breaking into a rendition of "Three Cheers for the Red White and Blue!"

What a great topic to post, billythecat and you have now seen first hand, how some members on this site will treat you when you speak up on an issue important to you and a significant number of the UK voters.

As soon as I saw the title of your thread, I knew what was coming and guess what, there are posts on this thread which clearly say to me that some members either are not interested or bothered in reading what you say. The very fact that you mention the BNP in the title of the thread which just give them the bait to label you and this thread.

I guess we just have to accept that some people are unwilling or unable to think about the issues, and will see anything to do with the BNP as racist.

While, the next paragraph is somewhat off topic, I do believe it has some relevent to the thread so please bear with me.

If you are planning to vote for Labour or the Tories in the upcoming general election, you are no better than a war criminal. The reasons for our invasion of Iraq are at best questionable and there is a body of evidence that would suggest that is invasion was based on incorrect intelligence and could be regarded as illegal, leadiong those who ordered the invasion open to charges of war crimes. Yet, do you see anything threads on this site talking about the Labour party or the Tory party, where as soon as you mention to support or are thinking about supporting either of these parties, people start to label you as a war criminal.

NO. So it is possible to have a reasoned debate and discussion on the issues behind why people in this country are listening to what the BNP have to say.

Back to the real topic of the thread...................

For the BNP to win my vote, I would want to see more about the whole spectum of policy. Rightly or wrongly, the BNP, MSM and many people, have focused on just one aspect of policy. I accept that this main focus is seen by many as "out there" but is a very real concern to many including me.

Just playing devils advocate here, but what exact policies do you think the BNP have (The non-racial ones please) that could improve our country. I agree with the next person that UK imigration is way out of control, and this needs to be stemmed. But there is a lot of work (New Deal, FND and so on) being done in the UK to Help all people of all colours.

And remember, we don't really have a native "White" country. We are all French, German, Nordick, Galick and so on. And we have to remember that the British Empire and Slavery , brought a lot of cultures to our shores.

And what does being British mean to you? What should it mean? What does it mean to you now. In terms of our "British Culture" , I don't generally know if we have one. I love our Country Side, and Clotted Cream Teas, Cidder , Local Foods, that local village life and so on. But what does being "BRitish" Mean??. I think the last time us Brits had a culture was pre WW1. I think after 100 years as well, our culture will have evolved somewhat.

And after all Britain to me has alway been made up of many cultures, we are a small island economy, surround by sea, and open to a lot of visitors. No, Im not happy with the amount of money spent on immigration and its clear we need to close the doors for a while. But to me, Britain is:-

Thats country life, small cottage industry feel.
Our Beautiful Countryside
Our Beautiful Coast Line
Our Mix of people, music and food.
Our music , which is pretty good .
Being able to walk out you door and find a great Indian, Chinese, Thai, Iranian, Italian, English, French Cuisine.
Our Language (Most diverse in the world I think - bar Manderin)
History, Castles, Statley Homes.
Royal Family (mmmmmmmm....don't know what theyt do .....but they are interesting to look at)
Accents (Who can't smile when you hear the Welsh speak in their linguistical song, or the Brummy accent.
Farming Culture,
Our local foods.
I know the french won't agree, but we brits do some of the best cheese in the world.


I think we need to promote what we have more to our young people. Its seems that all our young want to do is go out and get pissed on a weekend (Drinking Cultures) or sit inside watching films and playing computer games.

I think we need to promote our culture and take part in it more often. There is nothing more I like doing than taking my Nephews for a walk around a farm visiting all the animals, taking them to a museum .

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Thanks for the pic... Its my new screen saver.. And emotional as the woman i am, it bought tears to my eyes....


Thanks...

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