Originally posted by Illuminator13
Originally posted by Moreonethananyone
Would you mind telling us what mistakes Hidden Hand made and was he truthfull in his replys and pls check your u2u
Finally, somebody who read my answers and asked a good question.
Ok, "Hidden Hand" was who he said he was, there should be no mistake about it. Now, I have read his discourse with this site and it was very honest
and a pretty good piece of work. But, to my suprise, I noticed that he told you people way more than he was supposed to and I was not the only one to
notice. Infact here is a quote from him:
"Let's put it this way, I have already been, shall we say "chastised" for going well beyond my remit here. It was not intended that I be as open
as I have been. In fact, if you follow the topic through again from the beginning, you may notice how my 'tone' toward you (collectively) has
softened somewhat during our discourse together.
I have, as far as possible, adhered fully to the Laws of Free Will and Confusion, although there have been instances where I have said more than I
should have. You yourselves will not suffer for this, however, when it comes to my next cycle in 4th Density Negative, and working off my Karmic
Record, I will have to accept the consequences for my actions. But hey, I figure I've got a Negative enough life to come as it is, so what's a
little extra going to matter."
The one who were overseeing the discourse between him and this site read what he wrote and automatically knew that he had broken the Law of Free Will.
How did he break it? Well, he went into too much detail when answering the questions. Not only that, but he answered questions that nobody even asked
and that is not a wise thing to do. There are consequences for breaking The Laws, and they are pretty harsh if you ask me. Now, people on this site
accuse me of being "vague" and "cryptic" but they do not know what I know. There are things that I CANNOT tell you without harming myself and that
is something I am looking to avoid. The reason why I continue to "tread lightly" is because you really can’t be too sure that you've broken a
Law, until after it happens--then it hits you like a ton of bricks, although you can proceed with caution and will most likely avoid breaking
anything. The people in this world break these Laws all the time but they do it unconsciously, yet the still pay for their mistake. Now if I were to
consciously, knowingly, break these Laws then I would be in for a lot of trouble. What are these Laws? You'll have to figure them out for yourself.
This guy is only a psy-op who's REAL purpose is to STREGHTEN the belief system this "Hidden Hand" layed out a little earlier. It's the "false
left-right paradigm" where TWO wrongs try to convince us they are actually RIGHT ..and they are both wrong ..this is just a psy-op ala "protocols of
"Laws of karma and free will" ..these are just part of the religious psy-op. There is NO God given laws, but these laws were created by us humans,
NOT the Creator of All.
Bloodlines from Atlantis?! ...there is no missing continet!! Check out with Google Earth if you can find any "pieces of the puzzle" missing when you
start connecting the continental costal lines ...there is NO MISSING CONTINETS!!!! ...it all matches ..there is no atlantis in atlantic oceanc, no
atlantis in pacific ocean and there is no atlantis in the indian ocean ..it's all just a fairy tale, a myth.
"4th density negative harvest and positive harvest" ..these are also just Brotherhood psycho-babble ...it's just psy-op myths and jargon
..propaganda. people die every day!! ..there is no harvest. It's just this "illuminati" idiocy which they seems to believe themselves ---And this
is the best kind of psy-op ..when the "players" themself belive "this is real" ...you get the best results, cause everyone taking part in this
"game" think it's real ...and it's all just a fantasy myths.
These "bloodlineers" don't talk to any gods, but only to their discarnate ancestors ...it's a family-thing ..but like in our 3D world ..the
families that have the "loudest voices" (the most money and the most guns and soldiers) get to do most of the talking ...and so it is in the
"spiritual realms of humanity also" ..and this "4th density" is just another dimension of our planet Earth ..when we die we move on to the
"etheric dimensions of this planet Earth" ..so our "heaven" actually is (might be) this planet ...and the only "god of this planet" or "the
ancient of days" you're prolly ever gonna find is just a discarnate human spirit now PLAYING a god.
...do i have any proof that there is no TRUE creator gods speaking to us humans?! YES.
WANDERING STARS ...why, if the true creator of this sun system was giving Laws and teachings to us humans to follow ..and taught all the things about
astronomy and the Creation process ...why did they teach us 3D humans that the other planets are STARS?! ...Venus is a PLANET not a STAR, is it not?!
..but still Venus and others were called; ASTERES PLANETAI =stars + wanderers ..when in reality they are just PLANETAI not ASTERS,right?
...and the same thing is seen in the mesoamerican astronomy ...Venus was called a Chek Ek= Great STAR ...there was no ancient aliens teaching the
Mayas or the Aztec, and if there were, those green sods surelly did not know the difference between a PLANET AND A STAR(sun).
...so there goes the ancient aliens theory and communicating sub-creator-god theories to the trash bin. ..if there were other "intelligent" beings
talking to man "from spiritual kingdoms" other than from "human heaven", they sure wasn't very smart and didn't know # about true science ..and
they somehow, very oddly, know only just about as much as the still ALIVE human spirits, us 3D humans do ...the ancient (and present day) gods and
ascended masters are just discarnate human spirits ...and i'm sure they play the roles of these "astral aliens" also. I believe the "ufo"
technology actually is human invented ..human scientific discovery made by Nikola Tesla and his peers.
Here's a thread on the Tesla flying saucer ...i should post more info on the thread, cause i found some... might take awhile ...but check it out, and
read the linked material first, then argue..please.
So, cause our ancestors just DID NOT know that the planets were NOT stars as they falsly assumed..this points to the fact that the astronomical
information that the our ancients gathered is : FROM EARTH-perspective ..if it would have come from OUT SIDE SOURCES (ETs or gods/creators) i'm sure
they would have told us that the Venus and the other "glowing orbs" are planets like the Earth and NOT stars like the SUN. ...so, if you're a
supporter of the "ancent aliens theory" then answer me this ..why were the other planets of our sun system known as WANDERING STARS?
2012 ...is just a illuminati/brotherhood scam, a psy-op ...nothing special will not happen which would not be the workings of human hands ..there is
no aliens visiting this planet, and there is no God's punishment comming this way ...but humans might cook something up thou, but that hardly counts
as"supernatural" ...and like the buddhists say "There is NOTHING supernatural accouring in the Universe, cause everything is working under the
natural laws which were created by the same guy/source who/which created the whole Cosmos"
..as a closure
For this guy to be a real "good brother" he doesn't "illuminate" ...he doesn't tell you anything but fantasy-psy-op horse # ...don't take this
personally, i'm only reffering to the information and how you "play chess with it", if you get my drift. (to the Hidden Hand and this
"illuminator" ..i live in the "abyss", i know who (or what) your "masters" are ...and they know that i know ...and when i read the information
you post here ...i can tell that you do not KNOW that much ...but you only follow a script that was put in front of you,right? ...you're just
repeating the things your "elder brothers" taught to you, right? ...they are just using you, can't you see that?)
True illuminating informing don't play with no "Laws", like this guy does ...why a "Christ" would be afraid of some silly laws?! ..there is no
karmic debt to payed ..karma is a human invented consept ..it's just shame and guilt if you did something wrong. When you live as a good person,
karma does not matter, but it doesn't mean you still wouldn't be ashamed of you past deeds ...but no karmic debt will FORCE you to re-incarnate!!
..and in a matter of fact ..i haven't seen any concrete evidence that re-incartnation actually exists, and any one who claims they have seen evidence
of this ..send me a pm, cause i really wanna see this evidence ...re-incarnation is ONLY A THEORY, NOT a fact.
I read somewhere in the esoteric writing that the "devil is the best of relativists" ..and this guy, as does the Hidden Hand-guy, seem to me like
quite a relativists and sophists ..and this makes me think that these guys are form the same group ...they play too much with these silly esoteric
laws that are nothing but human inventions to distract people ... Many of the esoteric teaching are just like the "eternal knots", they are
paradoxes based on false reality which the brotherhood(s) created. ...and the "brotherhoods" use this symbol alot "eternal knot/endless knot"
...it's the "endless chess game" ..or so do they think ..but they will be put to stop.
..in reality the "White Brothood" and "the Dark Brotherhood" are one and the same they are just a "Dark brotherhood" ..the one's who think they
are in the White Brotherhood are just "usefull idiots".
Why aren't the "White Brotherhood" fighting for 9-11 truth and to stopp the EU and these things out in the open?! ...instead "they are
financially fighting the dark illuminati" like this Maban (supposedly another "good brother") guy told us ..buying out the Rothcshilds?!!!! ..good
plan!! ..you get to make more nd more money and the jobless kids get to fighting for the 9-11 truth and agaist the NWO in the streets .. you play with
stocks! ...imo, you "brothers" are crooked.
This info is soaked in these ...i call these threads a psy-op.
PS. If some one would like to ask me something about these "occult/esoteric" matters, i can try to answer some questions for you in this thread
...and i'm not too worried about any "Spiritual Laws".
But i'm not here very often, i'm fairly scientific/ feet on the ground with my replies and i'm guite a dry person and abit unsocial, so i may not
have the mind to argue with petty/silly things ..i deliver links for you for further research so you can see what i'm talking about.. I'm not into
myths aned old folk lore, so not all may like my replies, but i usually will try to give, proper emptive aswers, not "you ask the wrong questions,
ask me good ones, the right ones" kinda replies.
..so if you wanna ask something, keep it sort and simple. ...and address the Q's for ME, Fu-lion, and i'll try to get back once a week to reply any
Q's if there are some.