At Least 7 Dead, 12 Wounded in Shooting at Ft. Hood in Texas

reply to post by mr-lizard


Yeah 375 Million Americans.
It's hard to get us all on the same page.

Serene here, reporting in from Killeen, Texas - less than 1 mile away from Fort Hood. This is definitely a shock. You don't ever expect things like this to happen so close to where you stay. And when they do happen there is the constant worry that someone that you know is one of the victims. I was in school when this happened a few hours ago and the text messages about the shootings were being sent in a constant flow. There were people trying to contact some of their parents that work on the base, kids crying...just mute chaos. They could have easily come to any of the schools in the area and I could have possibly been one of the victims. I just can't seem to understand the motive behind these types of things...what could prompt a person to kill total strangers?

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Originally posted by Justaposter
ruh roh.. the shooter killed converted to muslim. (per Charlie on ABC)

This doesn't look good gang.

Get ready for more hate talk :/

This is not going to be good for relations here in the US and abroad.

My prayers are that people remain level headed and not turn to violence in response to this violent outburst.


-Sliadon

Originally posted by Noetic
"major malik hassad, an alleged muslin convert" referring to the "primary shooter". How'd I guess that he'd be portrayed as a Muslim?

Noetic, Central Texas actually does have a good sized Muslim population. So this isn't quite out of the possibilites.

A Major.. wow.

We've been conditioned to accept the concept of home grown terrorists since 9/11, and here some are. Expect to lose some liberties because of this.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by mr-lizard

 

Yeah 375 Million Americans.
It's hard to get us all on the same page.

Mate jest, jest....

Chill. Obviously not all of you. It's called a narrow minded, sweeping, stereotypical generalisation.


But i just don't get it, some of the people who have knocked Obama for acting quickly are the same people who criticised Bush for not doing anything.

Anyway back on topic:

Rumours suggest that some of the shooters 'may' have been muslim.

edit: typo

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Well if these soldiers are supposedly Muslim converts this story is no surprise. Just like the soldier that threw a grenade into a group of soldier's tent. He was sick of seeing his fellow Muslims being killed. Well maybe the stupid US military needs to quit recruiting muslims and any tom dick and harry who wants to go fight. What's next? We go to war with Mexican drug cartels and the hispanic US soldiers start killing other soldiers? I wouldn't be surprised if the US military was infiltrated by the Taliban at this point as inept and backasswards as our government is.......the military is just an extension of that ineptness.

Now they are bringing up Virginia Tech.

"Look what one handgun can do even on a military base."

sounds like Obama's speech was completely useless judging by the summaries.

reply to post by mr-lizard

Rumours suggest that some of the shooters 'may' have been muslim.

Race/religion need not apply.

Murderers just the same.

Originally posted by mr-lizard

Originally posted by Phlynx

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by riddle6
Something smells funny, I've never seen a President speak on something like this, this fast.

You know I was thinking the same
this is unprecedented!!!

I was thinking the same thing. That is really odd.

so you'd rather him sit in a classroom full of children an NOT say anything.

You people are crazy. You complain when your president doesn't do anything, and complain when he does.

It's not that I don't want him to talk about it, it's that I want to know why he was able to talk about it so soon. How did he get in front of everyone, video cameras, and all that stuff set up so fast for that? It seems odd that he can get set up and ready so fast.

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Wasn't he going to give a speech about native Americans anyway?

So i've heard.

Just a reminder to remain on topic and keep the personal sniping out of the discussion. For many, this is a preemptive reminder as this story is developing quickly and this thread is progressing even faster...

Thank you for your attention and cooperation.

Originally posted by Lazyninja
We've been conditioned to accept the concept of home grown terrorists since 9/11, and here some are. Expect to lose some liberties because of this.

Well, if they were military personnel...then why punish civilians by taking away liberties? Makes no sense...and would go over like a fly in the punch bowl.

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
Well if these soldiers are supposedly Muslim converts this story is no surprise. Just like the soldier that threw a grenade into a group of soldier's tent. He was sick of seeing his fellow Muslims being killed. Well maybe the stupid US military needs to quit recruiting muslims and any tom dick and harry who wants to go fight. What's next? We go to war with Mexican drug cartels and the hispanic US soldiers start killing other soldiers? I wouldn't be surprised if the US military was infiltrated by the Taliban at this point as inept and backasswards as our government is.......the military is just an extension of that ineptness.

Whats worse, Christians or Muslims? They are both religions, and both based on the same belief of God. Stop blaming religion.

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Sliadon, I didn't mean it to be hateful. This could go either way and sometimes people run with that.

I agree this is going to get ugly due to the name alone. And my local news is stating "recient convert".. (the newscasters on kxxv our local abc channel.)

Originally posted by hadriana
Now they are bringing up Virginia Tech.

"Look what one handgun can do even on a military base."

Have you ever served or been on a stateside base?
No, we don't walk around armed.

Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by mr-lizard

 

Rumours suggest that some of the shooters 'may' have been muslim.

Race/religion need not apply.

Murderers just the same.

oh of course, but when it's a muslim shooter you may assume it's because of the Iraq / Afghan war.

If the shooter was christian it would be harder to find a motive.

just saying is all.

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by hadriana
Now they are bringing up Virginia Tech.

"Look what one handgun can do even on a military base."

Have you ever served or been on a stateside base?
No, we don't walk around armed.

Yes I have. Fort Jackson, Gordon, Bad Kreuznach.

That's what the TV is saying - NOT me.

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Well, if they were military personnel...then why punish civilians by taking away liberties? Makes no sense...and would go over like a fly in the punch bowl.

I anticipate many commanders getting sacked because of this incident.

As far as liberties, there will be some who will push more because of this incident.

I don't see Texas budging.