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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 05:48 PM by paraclete1

Originally posted by GovtFlu

Originally posted by MegaCurious
reply to post by alyosha1981

...As far as the video; those guys were just being guys who got flirted with by some hot tart.. I didn't see a victim, just consenting adults playing the game of life...

If the woman hadn't been intoxicated, then I might agree that there wasn't a victim. But according to the report she was and if that's the case, I feel she was a victim simply in the fact that the police shouldn't take advantage of anyone in that condition. There's a big difference in a woman throwing herself at a man and a man putting his hands on her and taking photos.

On the other hand, there are laws about public intoxication. If they'd arreste her for that, then this thread would have been about a passenger being arrested after her driver got arrested.

But in this situation, the bottom line is that the officers were wrong. And while one was fired, the other quit. So in my mind, I tend to believe that he knew what he did was wrong.

But still, being a man, I can't help wonder what the outcry would have been if an intoxicated man was fondled and photographed after throwing himself at an all woman department?

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 05:52 PM by PSUSA

For every nefarious link above, there are 10 or 20 un-reported stories out there of cops making a positive difference in peoples lives.. these stories dont make the news because: is just another shift for the officers.

Perhaps we could all chip in and buy them a nice cookie for them doing their jobs.

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 05:53 PM by Phenomium

Originally posted by Ha`la`tha

Originally posted by Laurauk
I do have to point out although, unprofessional of these police officers, to do what they did, romthe video footage she encouraged it and participated in what was going on.

Now I am one for taking on the police when it comes to over use of thier power. Seems in this case these guys were handed, a hook, line, and they were sunk by it.

Sacked yes, serious misconduct, but she should have been charged also.

It doesn't matter if she was nude and spread eagled. Those officers were supposed to PROTECT her.

They took advantage of her.

Actually they were there "TO SERVE" and protect her. She clearly was in no real danger and they were more than willing to .........oh look a shiny coin.

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:10 PM by Phenomium

Originally posted by antonia

Originally posted by Ha`la`tha
reply to post by Retikx

Love the excuses tho guys. Will have to remember it the next time a woman is raped or abused; if she was drunk then she deserved it.

Right on brothas.

Except most misogynist idiots would be quite quick to say any woman who gets drunk is asking for it. That's a common defense in court and it works. I remember a man was acquitted because his victim somehow convinced him to use a condom. There's a lot of people out there who hate women and I have no idea why.

REALLY?????? You have no idea why???? REALLY???? Maybe it's the nepotistic relationship between the government and women. Women always get favored in court cases, jobs, child custody cases....everything. And don't tell me that women get less money in jobs either. Everywhere I have worked in the past 8 years, (and that's quite a few places) there has been nothing but women managers. they were good managers too, they didn't deserve what they got. The men in one place I worked all got relieved of their jobs as managers and replaced by women. One woman even became the manager or 2 areas at one time and 2 men had to lose their jobs because of her. I get so tired of women getting handed everything on a silver platter and then claiming that men are victimizing them and that they get lower wages......it's all just lies and everyone knows it. It's just that most men are cowards and afraid to speak out for fear of reprisal by the government or by feminist organizations placed to destroy male opportunity while aiding women to "replace" them or abdicate their present jobs. Or they just simply think that they will "score" with the women because they are led to believe so. I have been sexually accosted by women at work lately to the point of embarassment. It seems THEY can sexually harass me, but if men do it...we get slaughtered! What's worse is women can't see that anything is wrong....and why should they? There is NOTHING wrong on their side of the fence. Nothing to fix if it isn't broken right? Well it is destroyed on the man's side of the fence because of how the government coddles women these days .......................now you know why so many of us "mysoginists", (if that's what you prefer to call men that are fed up with government favored sexist agenda)............are angry with women today. If you don't believe me...then you'll just keep on wondering why men are mad at women for doing nothing at all......it must be that we are jealous of you for having lower pay or for being opressed by us.

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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:12 PM by infidel666

reply to post by Unleashed68

I hope your speaking for yourself my friend. I personally don't take advantage of people. I agree this is nothing to get excited about. But many are commenting on the videos that followed.

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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:15 PM by wiredamerican

Police take advantage of drunk girl, police state resource thread.

I do not see anything wrong on the video myself. All that I see on the video is flirting and flaunting. Both natural human behavior. Men cops are attracted to good looking women too. Nothing wrong with that. I feel the only thing the police officers are guilty of is being human.

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:16 PM by Phenomium

Originally posted by OrphenFire
Wow lol. I've watched a lot of police brutality videos and they boil my blood. But this video is just stupid. What did you expect those cops who are MEN to do? Escort her out? Yeah, they should have, probably. But she was an attractive woman acting extremely seductively and the cops fell for it. Drunk? So what. Being drunk doesn't make you do anything you didn't already wanna do anyway. It just amplifies extreme behavior, like this. She is not a victim.

By the way, I hate cops who abuse their power.

Preach on brother. I coudn't agree with you more. These women know what they are doing, they have been doing it since the beginning of time and have perfected the art of seduction. The audio was turned off.....I would lay money on the idea that she was using her sexuality to get out of some crime that she perpetrated against humanity. I have seen so many videos where women get pulled over and offer the cop sex for not having to pay a ticket or something like that. I have a feeling, she was trying to get out of some trouble and in the process got the cops in trouble instead and she knew that no matter what happened....................she would get off scott free. As if this isn't a trend that is as old as the Egyptians.

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:30 PM by paraclete1

Originally posted by Phenomium
...These women know what they are doing, they have been doing it since the beginning of time and have perfected the art of seduction...

All the more reason for these officers to have maintained their urges. When I went to work as a 911 dispatcher, the Officers I went through orientation with were warned about the "Badge Bunnies." There were told that if the lady got their badge, in most cases they'd cause them to loose their jobs too. If this young lady knew what she was doing, she managed to get two jobs.

Being held to a higer standard used to mean something to the american public in jobs such as Police, Teachers, Religious Leaders and many other public service offices. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case these days.

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:32 PM by alyosha1981

reply to post by seeashrink

Ok sarge, I can respect your opinion here as you have an emotional attachment to it, I compiled this thread as a resource and for that reason alone. You may be interested in another thread of mine Why all the police hatred? I like an objective look at both sides of an issue so plese keep that in mind and maybe stop by the other thread and take a look

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:34 PM by mishmallow8

How can the police and law enforcement expect respect from people? When your own are defacing your badge on a daily basis. BE ANGRY towards THEM.

Stupid slut, stupid frat BOY cops. They all need to grow up and grow a brain.
I don't CARE if that woman was waving her pussy around their faces....those cops/security really have to stoop to the same level of a drunk slut?

Once upon a time people took pride in there moral integrity, and honorable jobs. Especially those that are there to protect and serve the people....I don't even think people know what it means anymore.

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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:36 PM by GovtFlu

Originally posted by paraclete1

Originally posted by GovtFlu

Originally posted by MegaCurious
reply to post by alyosha1981

...As far as the video; those guys were just being guys who got flirted with by some hot tart.. I didn't see a victim, just consenting adults playing the game of life...

If the woman hadn't been intoxicated, then I might agree that there wasn't a victim. But according to the report she was and if that's the case, I feel she was a victim simply in the fact that the police shouldn't take advantage of anyone in that condition. There's a big difference in a woman throwing herself at a man and a man putting his hands on her and taking photos.

On the other hand, there are laws about public intoxication. If they'd arreste her for that, then this thread would have been about a passenger being arrested after her driver got arrested.

But in this situation, the bottom line is that the officers were wrong. And while one was fired, the other quit. So in my mind, I tend to believe that he knew what he did was wrong.

But still, being a man, I can't help wonder what the outcry would have been if an intoxicated man was fondled and photographed after throwing himself at an all woman department?

Well I'll have to ask your definition of "drunk", because legally public intoxication is usually something like Calif 647(f)PC "unable to care for your safety or the safety of others".. that girl looked like she was caring for her safety just fine to me.

In a recent thread / news story some regular pukes violated a drunk girl for hours while other regular pukes watched.. compare that to what these cops did.. see any massive difference? I do. the cops got caught flirting with a brief love tap or two and a cell phone quality photo, bfd.

As if every guy here would take moral offense to some hot tipsy chick putting on a display at their job...lol

BTW a cop quitting / resigning isn't an indication of guilt, one or both could be on probation where they do no enjoy police officers "rights".. like AB301 rights in Calif... or perhaps had previous incidents of being disciplined which is why they were on the desk. A probationer who resigns has a much better chance of getting another police job than if he were fired.

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:36 PM by antonia

reply to post by Phenomium

I was wondering when the misogynists would just out themselves. Cry me a river.

Really, she made them do it? Come on. Do men have free will or do you just happen to be slaves to your impulses?

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:38 PM by Phenomium

Originally posted by paraclete1
reply to post by seeashrink

Well said. The calibur of candidates does seem to be going down. The Local PD in my town was considering changing the test or lowering the score required because those taking it weren't able to meet standards. Thankfully they decided against it, but that was 5 to 7 years ago. I don't know if they've revisited it or not.

Thanks to the media and shows about dirty cops, the public no longer views the police officer as an outstanding citizen. But it like everything else in the world, you're going to find what you're looking for. If it happens to be bad cops. they'll be everywhere. The only expection to that rule seems to be a restroom. Never around when you need one. But wait, don't they also say that about cops, firemen, nurses, and Doctors. The truth is, they're there, you just are looking in the right places.

You cops should be ashamed of yourselves. You are to support your fellow officer. They were put into a precarious situation by a master of seduction who, by the very nature of the game, holds ALL of the cards and the deck is stacked against every man.That is the woman. Certainly YOU and Sargeant rat up there have had a "weak" moment where you have been taken advantage of by a female. It's impossible not to, even if you have never been on a date with one, they can get to you at every corner or even in the grocery store. The answer is NOT to condemn the men for having a weak moment. A reprimand or penalty of pay would have sufficed. Sargeant rat (in another post) didn't have to get the guy fired and starve his wife and children in the process. Certainly police are held to a higher standard but at the end of the day, they are still human beings who are subjected and are victims of the same emotions and feelings as you and I. You two are the reason why men everywhere are LOSING.

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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:44 PM by alyosha1981

All, something I want to point out here is that human nature shouldn't come into play here, (in reference to the first video) These officers were on duty!In a place of business, a police station! not hanging out on their own time at the local bar. IMO this behavior is unacceptable at best with respect to the time and place in which it took place.

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:50 PM by Phenomium

Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by Phenomium

I was wondering when the misogynists would just out themselves. Cry me a river.

Really, she made them do it? Come on. Do men have free will or do you just happen to be slaves to your impulses?

You women KNOW that men are indeed slaves to their impulses and you capitalize on it every chance you get. No, SHE didn't make them leave their jobs, SHE went to the boss and highly suggested it and HE broke. All I know is that one of the women went upstairs to the bosses office and when she came back down, she had good news for several of the women and bad news for the men who were in their current positions. So no, SHE didn't do anything, but SHE had help. It's kind of like a sister who is favored by the parents over the brother......she doesn't have to do a thing, but she is hated for the undeserved favoritism..................she is also hated for what she is NOT doing, trying for "true equality". You won't get a man to cry you a river (as you suggested) that seems to be the way women are getting everything. The reason why it keeps on getting worse for us men is for that very fact....we don't cry to get what we want. We suffer silently while being beaten by a government who favors women over men and lays it on thick. I don't expect you or any other woman to agree with me and i fully expect you to scoff at every word I say. As mentioned before, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Nothing is wrong with your lives and indeed, the very threat of someone suggesting that there is an imbalance of equality in your favor.....is a very threat to your livilihood of government approved, government guaranteed privilage.

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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 06:58 PM by hoghead cheese

reply to post by PSUSA

Spot on, these cops showed that they where a danger to society and yet the judge decides to throw out the case essentially. Somebody should be investigating the judges. This is becoming a national crisis, the police are acting like a gang and are being protected like an organized crime syndicate.

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 07:11 PM by Phenomium

Originally posted by antonia

Originally posted by Bored To Tears
reply to post by HulaAnglers

Kind of over reacting to this aren't you?

They were just doing what any straight male would have done. Granted they did it at the worst possible place, but its not something to get your panties in a wad.

Don't presume to speak for all straight males. There are many who would be disgusted be her behavior and would not touch her. The officers were in the wrong because an obvious crime was being committed in front of them. If a man had done what she was doing it would have landed him in jail. They shouldn't have done any of that crap. There was an appropriate way to handle the situation and what you saw was not it.

........and how about you stop looking at the situation through rose colored glasses. I didn't hear you do anything but denigrate the cops here. Make no mistake about it, the female was just as in the wrong as the cops were. She played a big part, in fact, even instigated the scene. Had it not been for her incredibly short skirt and the "give me what I am wanting" attitude, this scenario most likely would not have occured. It was the fault of the female to foment this situation in the first place. BTW, if a MAN would have went to jail for doing what she had done.....then why is it not that she went to jail for that same offense? Because she's a female, that's why. Priviledged.

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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 07:21 PM by calstorm

reply to post by Phenomium

That's the most pathetic thing I have ever heard. And a bad stereotype of women to boot. So if you want a woman bad enough you just rape her because you can't control your self? Grow some balls. Fortunately for us women there are real men out there who don't give into the lame mind set.

reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 07:31 PM by Phenomium

Originally posted by calstorm
reply to post by Phenomium

That's the most pathetic thing I have ever heard. And a bad stereotype of women to boot. So if you want a woman bad enough you just rape her because you can't control your self? Grow some balls. Fortunately for us women there are real men out there who don't give into the lame mind set.

First off, they didn't rape her. She did more than they did in the video. As for you being a "real woman" ....if you are the example for a real woman then who needs 'em? "Grow some balls?" that's the classiest thing I think I've heard yet from a woman. I never said anything about a man raping a woman to get what he wants. Typical, to twist the words of a man in your favor. I don't think any man, any where has ever had to deal with a woman trying to twist his words against him and had the woman create percieved, unspoken statements out of statements that were something entirely different. No, that has never happened to man LOL. What is pathetic is your attempt to twist a sentence and it's structure to benefit your argument of nothing. It's the equivalent of hitting below the belt....yeah, where those things are that I ostensibly just grew. A lucky guy is the man who gets a woman as classy as you. If you are a "real woman" who is worthy of a real man......how about showing some decorum.

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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 07:32 PM by srslyguyz

eh... i dont know about the video, its not really a big deal imo. the girl was askin for it and obviously liked the attention... doesnt mean the cops should have been doin what they did but at the same time i wouldnt consider this police brutality or anything close.... the links provided were great though, i wish people would pay more attention to the real police brutality, there are tons of good examples of cops taking advantage of there badges. well imo most laws are rediculous anyways