I've always wondered why people are suddenly believing the Mayan calendar 2012 stuff. Why is it supposed to be so reliable? Has it predicted anything else in history that we should know about?

I don't know if this has been brought up, but Ian Lungold has an explanation of something that was found in the region of the Maya which went unexplained for a long time because it starts with a time frame of 16.4 billion years (right around current estimates of the age of the Universe). At the time it was discovered, no one had a clue why such a long time period would enter into things...

But shorter and shorter periods were described until our present one (Ethics) with one more to be reached that lasts 280 days (Conscious Co-Creation).

All of these time frames end simultaneously. Ian has an October, 2011 date, but many see that it should be 12-21-12 (differences in translating Mayan dates to Gregorian ones, likely). But the point is, do we really believe that we will start all over with a 16.4 billion year cycle? When the "steps" of this Mayan "calendar" represent developmental aspects of consciousness?

No. Something else will happen. Who knows exactly what.

Originally posted by thomas_



Also if the Mayas were so ignorant and current scientists so much better why it took us so long to find that the Earth was round and measure it? Or count the number of planets in the solar system? Or find out that our calendar sucks pretty bad?

They didn't had Hubble, telescopes, satellites, internet, atomic energy, and all of the related stuff and yet were able to come up with all that plus more. Things that took us centuries and modern technology to prove as being correct.

Correct the mayans werent ignorant thankfully they never said the world was gonna end in 2012!!!!!!

[edit on 29-10-2009 by fallenearth]

About 2012
1)Mayan calender ends a great cycle
2)Hopi Indians have oral histories that state civilization(the world) was destroyed 3 times,roughly every 6500 years or so.
3)All present humans are descended from only 5000 breeding age females (general population ~ 12-15000 humans),this is scientific fact.
3)Sumarian civilization had advanced mathematics and star maps 6000 years ago,there are no human habitations found earlier than 6000-6500 years ago,why??,agriculture was supposedly developed 10-11000 years ago.
4)Some geologists date the great Sphinx in Egypt to 10-12000 years ago due to rainwater erosion of rocks surrounding the sphinx(prior great civilization??)
4)Worldwide histories in many diverse cultures separated by thousands of miles describing a great flood or calamity.
5)Dogan priests in Ethiopia have accurate star maps of Sirius dating back 4500 years,this despite having no telescopes!!
6) If a large planetoid or planet was hurling towards the solar system,do you think the elite power blocs would release this knowledge to the general public or hide it and try to save their asses at the expense of the rest of the human race???(ie build spaceships in secret)
7)The so called building of FEMA camps could be a smoke screen for the stockpiling of supplies for the power elites here in the USA,so they will survive.
8)A banana tree cannot reproduce itself,you must plant a shoot cut from a living banana tree to start a new banana tree,bananas have been found in Egyptian tombs from 4000 years ago,where was the first tree??
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Originally posted by flashguru
To the OP:

Why are you in a conspiracy theory forum when you don't believe in any of them?

Ummmm, check my post and thread history, you will find that there are conspiracies I do believe in.

Thanks for not contributing to the thread

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Actually I don’t know where people get 2012 from or where you get 12/12/2012 from since the Calendar ends 12/24/2011. Me thinks you are simply hyping a thread.

Sorry, I stand corrected, you are correct....I seemed to have written the date down wrong. The corret date should align with the northern hemispheres winter solstice

Wow! I am so happy that the "Wizard" has finally spoken
and that nothing is going to happen! Tomorrow, I will go
and tell everyone I know, that have been laid off or are out
of work. It's all going to be OK!

Then again, when has the weatherman ever been right?
:@@

[edit on 29-10-2009 by AlternateEnding]

Originally posted by fallenearth

Originally posted by thomas_



Also if the Mayas were so ignorant and current scientists so much better why it took us so long to find that the Earth was round and measure it? Or count the number of planets in the solar system? Or find out that our calendar sucks pretty bad?

They didn't had Hubble, telescopes, satellites, internet, atomic energy, and all of the related stuff and yet were able to come up with all that plus more. Things that took us centuries and modern technology to prove as being correct.

Correct the mayans werent ignorant thankfully they never said the world was gonna end in 2012!!!!!!

[edit on 29-10-2009 by fallenearth]

Only morons think that the Mayan's said for A+B that the world would end. They do however talk about the end of cycle and a few other bits that leave things up to interpretation.

Those who can't stand their lives anymore or are simply pessimists see a big fat "The End", new age people see a new "conscious age" where everyone is happy and sing kumbaya all day long, optimists see the beginning of shiny new world, NWO freaks see the raise of a 4th Reich, Grey fans see them coming to earth to do some shopping and skeptics see nothing because that's all they do.

Personally I would like to see a wake up call that results in a mix of all of the above to reset certain things and spice things up a bit. If it will happen I don't know and I don't care

But one can imagine, without imagination all that would be left in this world are boring insensible people that keep regurgitating factoids... that my friend would be too bleeping boring to not be considered a true end of humanity.