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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 01:23 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
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Might want to read the posts above then on this page about the Treay of Ghent my friend that ended the War of 1812.
It get's worse not better!
Please feel free to believe what you feel is right or makes sense to you, but you might find it interesting and eye opening to some serious research.
I did and I am glad I did!
Thanks friend.
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 01:49 AM by Keymaster1
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By the way, I'm related to tons of famous prople here in AMERICA, just to name a few,
Daniel Boone's 2nd wife is my mothers mothers mothers sisters husbands sister, WHEW!
A certain member of the 9/11 commission (no way in HELL i'm saying which one) is my fathers mothers sisters husbands sisters child, (I keep
telling my father to STOP TELLING PEOPLE WE'RE RELATED TO THEM!, he doesn't know about reality, he thinks the T.V. tells the truth about everything,
God help me i've tried to de-programme him, but nothing I say can dissuade him!)
Well, I'm tired of typing, lets just say One side (fathers father) ancestor landed in New York in 1640a.d., Land Agent for The Crown. other side
(fathers mother) lets say 4000 year direct line(ha ha) from Judea via 1910's Russian pogrums.
Other side, (mothers mother) arrived in Wilmington Iowa, circa 1720s' fur trade. (mothers father) Black Irish arrived here shortly after the turn
of the century.
And Yes, I'm Direct Male (bastard) linage from William Of Orange....Go Figure!
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 02:03 AM by Keymaster1
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I thought we were discussing the title of 'blah-blah' "of the united states" as a descriptor of georgie, In ghent he is only refered to as "His
Brittannic Majesty".
Did I miss something?!
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 04:40 AM by Dramey
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with the way our society has been interbreeding over the past couple thousands of years and especially past couple hundreds this shouldnt really
surprise anyone
if you dig deep enough or make the family tree branches long enough eventually you can probably connect every human alive
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:54 AM by bra1nwash
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well I'm a 34th grandson of king alfread the great, so I guess that means I should should start hanging out with illuminati.
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 02:30 PM by Hemisphere
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Originally posted by Beefcake
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by washingtonsghost
It makes me wonder if maybe we aren't all related to a King of England?
It's actually very common, if people to search back far enough and if their families came over from Europe, to find relations. So, a LOT more of us
are related than we think. 
This is always said at least once in a thread like this and very typical that it is you who says it this time.
What you are saying is complete BS i have a family member that was in a Family tree club and they went back hundreds of years or as far as records
would take them to determine who each of them were related to. There were about 20 people in the club and only 2 of them traced lineage back to
anyone of notoriety.
Dead on BC! I went through this with this same poster in another thread. These are just throw away lines. "It's actually very common" if you're
related to the presidents. It's actually very common to become president if you're related to the presidents. It is apparently a prerequisite.
And.... nine of them were vice presidents that succeeded to the presidency and so it's all in the family.
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 03:16 PM by hawk123
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Originally posted by TheNetherlands
It's actually very common, if people to search back far enough and if their families came over from Europe, to find relations. So, a LOT more of us
are related than we think. :
I agree, because a nice to know fact is, their are at least EIGHT!! Presidents of the USA with real close relatives here in my city Leiden, in
Holland.
Those eight include Bush SR, Bush JR, and even Obama and Roosevelt.
And they are close relatives, not some far away ant or uncles, but they are direct descendants. In other words i mean great-great-great-great
grandparents... father of the father of the father of the etc etc etc...
Maybe i can find the article about it
[edit on 28/10/09 by TheNetherlands]
There are at least 9 presidents related to the Leiden pelgrim fathers.
Including Obama and Bush
www.pilgrimarchives.nl...
The Bilderberg office is still hosted in Leiden.
www.bilderberg.org...
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reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 06:47 PM by glan
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I have been real busy and haven't had time to respond to many posts, and I'm apologize for that. I haven't been active much at all in this
discussion, but I have read through many posts.
Being the Pres of the US it doesn't make sense to me that it's possible, unless like others have said it's a conspiracy. Be it the blood line, or
what not. The family tree does go back but the odds of being related to 99.9% of the presidents does seem odd to me.
I will research this more and I hope to post my findings I haven't posted in a long time, and wanted to hear everyone's thoughts on this.
I'll do my best to get more to you.
Keep up the good work, Glan.
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reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 08:12 AM by JoshNorton
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Originally posted by glan
Being the Pres of the US it doesn't make sense to me that it's possible, unless like others have said it's a conspiracy. Be it the blood line, or
what not. The family tree does go back but the odds of being related to 99.9% of the presidents does seem odd to me.
Only until you consider
the hundreds of thousands of descendants of John Plantagenet who have NOT become president. Less than 0.043% of his offspring have had that honor.
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reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 10:06 AM by Ragdollcat
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I had heard that Bush and John Kerry were related. I wouldn't doubt that all Presidents are related. Inbreeding?
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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 11:34 PM by mrno1
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I Knew that before Obama was even elected!
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 02:32 PM by KilluminatisRex
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I have said it time and time again but anyone who takes the time to read the Treaty of Paris that established the United States after the
Revolutionary War and researches the words and titles used, and then can take honest note that the treaty is being dictated to us by the English King
and what and how it is being dictated will likely conclude nothing was won in the Revolutionary War but the right to incoporate as a franchise.
In the opening Paragraph of the Treaty the King reserves the right to be the United States Prince Elector (a Holy Roman Empire Title meaning one has
the power to appoint an emperor, prince or King for the Empire) and to also be our treasurer!
It is also pretty apparent when you read the treaty literally and thats how treaties are meant to be read as that is how they are written that the
King's main power is not dirived from being the English King but by being a Prince of the Holy Roman Empire and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman
Empire, and Arch Treasurer of the Holy Roman Empire.
This is the King's full title note the first, note the last.
It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God,
king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy
Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America
You can see how right in the treaty that he delcares himself to the prince elector of the United States (he choses who will be President, and that he
is the arch-Treasurer of the United States, he controls our money.
This is a legal binding treaty by the way people.
While on the surface it appears through stories like the OP's post that it's England controlling us or ruling over us secretly, I contend that just
as the title suggests all roads lead to Rome, and the English Monarch derives their power over us via Rome and the power that Rome gives them.
Most people disagree with me on this but I truly believe we are an incoproated state of the Roman Empire.
Treaty of Paris
. You are correct, the Roman Empire fell according to what you were told in school. However this is conspiracy to create an idea in peoples heads
that we are an independent free nation (United States) from the past Monarch Control empires of Europe. this is why in the bible, the forth and final
world empire (Roman Empire) will be the current Power Structure and World Authority before the apocolypse, Armageddon, ect... and of course the return
of Christ. The one and true hope for mankind from itself.
If you need proof this is still Roman rule, LOOK! US coined currency is pretty much the exact same thing as Roman Money.
4 world Empires
Babylonian Empire (Head of gold)
Media-Persian empire (Chest and arms of silver)
Grecian Empire (Belly and thighs of Brass)
Roman Empire (Legs of Iron and Feet of Potters Clay and Iron) These references come from The Book Of Daniel of the Old Testament or Torah. The Christ
or messiah is referenced in Daniel, but not by name. Only referencing him as "the Ancient of Days whose garmet was white as snow and the hair of his
head like pure wool. His Throne like the fiery flame and his wheels as burning fire."
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reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 05:39 AM by TheNetherlands
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Originally posted by hawk123
Originally posted by TheNetherlands
It's actually very common, if people to search back far enough and if their families came over from Europe, to find relations. So, a LOT more of us
are related than we think. :
I agree, because a nice to know fact is, their are at least EIGHT!! Presidents of the USA with real close relatives here in my city Leiden, in
Holland.
Those eight include Bush SR, Bush JR, and even Obama and Roosevelt.
And they are close relatives, not some far away ant or uncles, but they are direct descendants. In other words i mean great-great-great-great
grandparents... father of the father of the father of the etc etc etc...
Maybe i can find the article about it
[edit on 28/10/09 by TheNetherlands]
There are at least 9 presidents related to the Leiden pelgrim fathers.
Including Obama and Bush
www.pilgrimarchives.nl...
The Bilderberg office is still hosted in Leiden.
www.bilderberg.org...
Since i live in Leiden, maybe ill should go pay a visit 
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