Sometimes random isn't so random.
- Alberto David Solano
Originally posted by liveandletlive
I asked “how many people here on ATS are members of the Royal blood line?” not whose husbands are related the only President from the state of Pennsylvania and the only president to remain a lifelong bachelor. en.wikipedia.org...
Royal descent is common among residents of the United States, as in other countries. It has been estimated that probably as many as 150 million Americans (half of the population) have traceable royal European descent
Originally posted by LightWonder
extremely interesting.. makes you think there is something else going on here like eugenics or of that sort.
"traced that Obama, and all other U.S. presidents except Martin Van Buren, are related to John "Lackland" Plantagenet, a king of England and signer of the Magna Carta. "
I'm wondering that if all our presidents are of england royal descent every election is some what of a fluke.
Originally posted by WalterRatlos
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
First of all, I do not know about a Holy Roman Empire. Historically, there was only one Holy Roman Empire, that of the German Nations, dissolved centuries ago at the time of the Great Revolutionary War. Being that by the time of the US Revolutionary War the English Church had also separated from the Catholic Church, I think it is highly unlikely that the English king or queen would hold such a title, but even if s/he did it would not have meant much at that time period. The Revolution in France was still fresh and then your own Revolution. Secondly, I hear that a lot that it is in reality USA Inc., but the fact remains it's plain USA. Period. Yes, corporations rule the world, and thus also the US, but still ...
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
While on the surface it appears through stories like the OP's post that it's England controlling us or ruling over us secretly, I contend that just as the title suggests all roads lead to Rome, and the English Monarch derives their power over us via Rome and the power that Rome gives them.
Most people disagree with me on this but I truly believe we are an incoproated state of the Roman Empire.
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Locus Sancti Sepulchri (= the place of the Holy Sepulchre).*
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by washingtonsghost
It makes me wonder if maybe we aren't all related to a King of England?
It's actually very common, if people to search back far enough and if their families came over from Europe, to find relations. So, a LOT more of us are related than we think.
Obama has 'Leidsche' ancestors
*Published on 05 December 2008, 14:51
Last updated on 05 December 2008, 16:13
The next U.S. President Barack Hussein Obama has ancestors in Leiden.Through his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham his genealogical line goes back twelve generations to Thomas Blossom and Anne Eldson Blossom, a Pilgrim family who fled from England between 1609 and 1629 to the Pieterskerkhof in Leiden.
Die ontdekking, die is bevestigd door de gezaghebbende New England Historic Genealogical Society, maakte wethouder Jan-Jaap de Haan (cultuur) vrijdag bekend in het Leiden American Pilgrim Museum aan de Beschuitsteeg. That discovery, which is confirmed by the authoritative New England Historic Genealogical Society, was announced by deputy-Mayor Jan-Jaap de Haan on Friday at the Leiden American Pilgrim Museum at the Rusk Steeg. Juicy detail: the same Thomas Blossom is also a distant ancestor of the Presidents Bush.
De Haan bedoelde het eigenlijk als grap toen hij afgelopen zomer Jeremy Bangs van het Prilgrim Museum uitdaagde om een link te vinden tussen Obama en Leiden. De Haan actually meant it as a joke last summer when he challenged Jeremy Bangs from the Pilgrim museum to find a link between Obama and Leiden. ,, To my surprise he responded very serious.''A few months later Bangs mailed the vice-mayor a pedigree, showing that the link does exist. Obama's mother is a descendend from Blossoms daughter Elisabeth. From Blossoms son Peter the connection runs back to the Bushes.
"We are very confident that this is true'' De Haan says. "It is scientifically proved. '' We even used DNA.''
Obama is, after "Grant, Coolidge, Taylor, Roosevelt and Bush Jr and SR the eight U.S. president who has shown that he is descended from the Pilgrims of Leiden, a group of Protestants who fled England because of religious persecution.
,,Misschien is dit bij een eventueel komend staatsbezoek van president Obama aan Nederland wel aanleiding voor hem om onze stad te bezoeken. "Perhaps this could possibly lead to a visit by President Obama when he visits the Netherlands. ''George Bush Sr., who was proud of his Leiden Pilgrim roots, visited Leiden in 1989.