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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 09:36 AM by Fromabove
Originally posted by yeahright

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I've never seen his parentage seriously questioned. That would be all you'd need to verify to get the ball rolling on a genealogical study, isn't it?





How would we know, we never actually seen his real birth certificate. Without that you have only words and that really doesn't mean much these days.


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 09:39 AM by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by genius/idoit
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post by Benevolent Heretic


That's a pretty cavalier attitude to that revelation don't you think? Have you traced your ancestry,are you related to all but one president?I have and I'm not and I traced my ancestry back to the battle of sterling.


Nope not cavalier at all..


Pretty normal if you do much reading at all..


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:05 AM by Privacy-Please
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After reading up on this Akhenaten, he was a pretty good guy who thought outside the box. Which reminds me of some of the things Obama has been trying to do with alternative energies and things of that nature. I can't say Obama is all that bad, but there are definitely things he does I do not agree with. But in reality, if it were McCain up at the podium instead of Obama, people would be complaining about the same thing, Socialism. No matter what president we have there will always be something of a conspiracy about them.

As for Akhenaten, if Obama was a genetic decedent or clone of this guy, I would have no problems. Akhenaten was very intelligent, and he too tried to bring a "change" onto his kingdom.

Just look here for more of your answers:
en.wikipedia.org...

The references look pretty solid.


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:11 AM by Fromabove
The English are not really unique as a people but are a mix of different Europeans who either migrated to or invaded England. I traced my ancestry and everyone should if for no other reason than to know something about yourself. I traced it back as far as 1311. My family were land owners in France in Normandy until the mid 14th century when hardship forced them to migrate to England where they stayed until about the 16th century. My forefathers were mostly carpenters and then ship builders. Eventually in the 16th century they migrated to Ireland, mixed with the native population until all of the English was bred out of them. They remained in ship building until the potato famine which drove them to American. My Grandfather opted for sailing the big old wooden ships rather than building them and so went to sea in 1880 at the age of 16. He nearly died when marooned on a small Caribbean island for four months until rescued. My father had neither a desire or want for ship building or sailing and so went into industry as a laborer, typical for the time period of the 30's and 40's. He remained in the lower working class, had a wife and six children. That leaves it to me. I also went into industry, but opted out to venture into my own business that is thriving in this Obama-nation economy (in spite of it). I am also a land owner bringing it to a full cycle not since 1311. I aspire to become very wealthy, have many talents to do so, and will.

But to be on topic, we have know idea who or from where Obama is from, related to, etc. Until we see the real deal birth certificate.


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:15 AM by maybereal11
Originally posted by genius/idoit
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post by Benevolent Heretic


That's a pretty cavalier attitude to that revelation don't you think? Have you traced your ancestry,are you related to all but one president?I have and I'm not and I traced my ancestry back to the battle of sterling.


No it's not.

I have traced my and my wifes ancestry in depth.

I have over 5000 entries/individuals in my family tree maker software...and guess what I am related to probably 13 kings....guess what...you too probably.

Start by doubling the number of parents for each generation and go back 30 generations to the first king of england..

Parents ..2...gparents..4...great gparetns..8 ...great ..great grand parents..16

Do that 30 times....now for each of those folks think about their children...spouses parents...cousins ...aunts uncles etc etc..

THINK....there is no mystery here...the math is exponential..



Royal descent is common among residents of the United States, as in other countries. It has been estimated that probably as many as 150 million Americans (half of the population) have traceable royal European descent


en.wikipedia.org...


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:22 AM by Snarf
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define "related"...

According to the Bible - we're all related.

Is 22nd Cousin considered related?

You can tip the scale in your favor any way you want...as long as you bend logic, and shed your dignity.

Have fun with that.


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:23 AM by habfan1968
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I have said it time and time again but anyone who takes the time to read the Treaty of Paris that established the United States after the Revolutionary War and researches the words and titles used, and then can take honest note that the treaty is being dictated to us by the English King and what and how it is being dictated will likely conclude nothing was won in the Revolutionary War but the right to incoporate as a franchise.

In the opening Paragraph of the Treaty the King reserves the right to be the United States Prince Elector (a Holy Roman Empire Title meaning one has the power to appoint an emperor, prince or King for the Empire) and to also be our treasurer!

It is also pretty apparent when you read the treaty literally and thats how treaties are meant to be read as that is how they are written that the King's main power is not dirived from being the English King but by being a Prince of the Holy Roman Empire and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire, and Arch Treasurer of the Holy Roman Empire.

This is the King's full title note the first, note the last.

It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America


You can see how right in the treaty that he delcares himself to the prince elector of the United States (he choses who will be President, and that he is the arch-Treasurer of the United States, he controls our money.

This is a legal binding treaty by the way people.

While on the surface it appears through stories like the OP's post that it's England controlling us or ruling over us secretly, I contend that just as the title suggests all roads lead to Rome, and the English Monarch derives their power over us via Rome and the power that Rome gives them.

Most people disagree with me on this but I truly believe we are an incoproated state of the Roman Empire.

Treaty of Paris




But Proto, article 2 of the same document cedes all rights to property to the States and it's citizens.



reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:29 AM by Snarf
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So...is Obama related to all U.S. presidents or is he a secret Muslim from Kenya?

Oh i see, he's both?...and he's the spawn of Satan and Hitler all rolled into one.

Man...don't people ever give up?


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:32 AM by gazerstar
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Akhenaten was fascinating. He is known as the Heretic King. I have read theories where some people speculate that he could have been Moses or even Jesus. Akhenaten, like all Pharoahs, was said to be the result of a virgin birth too. Heretical thoughts, yes, but interesting to ponder.



"Akhenaten was not a visionary but rather a methodical rationalist. Akhenaten was a rational philosopher who took the throne of perhaps the most powerful empire on earth at that time, and implemented reforms one by one as soon as the necessary political conditions had been created. Akhenaten manipulated the power of the priestly institutions at his command very brilliantly. The new religion could be summed up as there is no god but Aten, and Akhenaten is his prophet. " - Jimmy Dunn

Akhenaten was the first head of state on the Earth to decree the concept of one God. Akhenaten called himself the Son of Aten, prefiguring the legend of Jesus.

Akhenaten also provoked a change in art. In the long history of Egyptian art, Pharaohs were generally presented as ideal figures, with athletic bodies and handsome faces. Portraits and statues made during Akhenaten's rule were much more realistic in style, often showing Akhenaten and Queen Nefertiti, Akhenaten's Chief Royal Wife, in intimate, affectionate poses or with their children, six daughters, on their laps. At times, Akhenaten is shown riding with Nefertiti in a chariot, kissing Nefertiti in public and with Nefertiti sitting on his knee. Akhenaten himself was portrayed with a long, narrow face, wide hips on a somewhat deformed body, a small potbelly, and unusually long fingers and toes.

The Heretic Akhenaten


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