Welcome to the 4th Reich .

I have actually stoped trying to talk to my neighbors and reprogram them to see me as just another sheep. I think its time to start blending if you haven't allready.

Creepy indeed! Just like in the book where some kids report their parents and they get executed for being against Big Brother.

On a different note:

Originally posted by whaaa
features a multicultural line-up of speakers

I like how some americans think that a guy is hispanic simply because he's called Carlos, although he talks and looks like any other regular american.

So now that everyone is greater Los Angeles area have been certified as confidential informants by the LAPD, does that mean they will be getting checks from the city? That last sentence was a joke, but if I were a resident of LA, I would oppose this measure by the police department. Why should the citizens do the job of the police?

Plus, the act of spying on one's neighbor is so 1930's Germany. Has everyone forgotten about the horrors of last century? It all started with concerned citizens reporting their neighbors to the authorities for perceived infractions against the state, because they were made to believe, that by reporting suspicious activity, it was their national duty. The end result led to many innocent deaths.

I'm surprised the ACLU hasn't started frothing at the mouth at this recent attempt by the LAPD to tamper with our rights to privacy? This measure should be opposed by the people of LA because it is unnecessary and could lead to something harmful for us all. Give them one inch and they will think it is okay to take that mile.

So, will this lead to people being closely watched by their neighbors and co-workers, because they worship at a Mosque, enjoy hummus and baklava, frequent hooka establishments, or seen with prayer beads, or other attributes of Middle Eastern culture? I, in no way would support this recent measure, because, I, like others, value our privacy.

[edit on 25-10-2009 by Jakes51]

I don't think this is funny at all.

Yeah, that sort of thing is worrisome. Burn a little incense, someone thinks you'rw smoking dope. Play some foreign-language music, someone thinks you're plotting against the US. Wear some different-looking clothing, you're automatically a terrorist.

People have *already* tried to turn people in for speaking Arabic, for wearing head coverings or hijabs, for praying publicly.

My paranoid fantasy is like this: See, the police can't legally just bust in and search your place (or you), without some sort of "probable cause". They have to be able to say what it was that made them suspicious of you before they searched you. Cops hate that. But if they're responding to a complaint by a citizen who reports something "suspcious", they can search you. Not only that, the cops can *claim* that they had an "anonymous complaint", and commit a search based on that. They don't even have to wait for a phone call. Just make it up and go search whoever they want.

I guess it's a safe bet that we all ATSers will see each other in jail/prison/ FEMA camps/ whatever they decide to put us in if/when this goes state-wide.

Seriously thought, this is scary, specially if you have neighbors who hate you. guess it's time for me to be a bit more friendly with my neighbors just for precaution.

Reminds me of a advert I saw earlier which featured a woman doing gardening outside in the rain (as if that wasnt weird enough) saying to her neighbour "bad weather isnt it." Who then puts on Sunglasses and walks inside his house and the advert being for dirt remover which leaves everything sparkling.

The point is before the ad finishes the woman is shown sneaking round the back of this guys house "in suspicion," what sort of societary standard is that setting to the viewer?, in that if you see anyone acting suspicious you somehow have a right to go snooping round the back of their property and see what there up to.

Wow, that is freaky.
The "Spot" while it might be a good idea to keep people informed, it does have all the calling cards of "Big Brother".
I wonder what kind of things, "People" will consider "†3rrΘr!$m" and report?

While I can understand the comments that have been made from my fellow ATS participants, I honestly don't see the harm in encouraging the public to be more observant of their surroundings.

It's basicly a larger version of the Neighborhood Watch Program that was started in 1972. A much much larger version considering the population of L.A. County alone is 10 Million +-. LAPD has roughly 10,000 officers which is a 1000:1 pop to cop ratio. That's not including surrounding areas, tourist, out of state business visitors, illegal imagrants, etc.

Factor in budgetary cutbacks, officers being fired or quitting, and the population growing daily ... It's absolutely impossible for the police force to maintain a presence that would deter criminals for conducting their business.

I agree that the system will have it's fair share of abuse, but in this case, the Pros far out weigh the Cons when it comes to protecting a city that needs all the help it can get.

Let the flaming and Pro-NWO rants commence!

Ha

Ceiling cat will have a field day with this!

I couldn't resist

This iWatch thing just may be a great intuitive way to fill up all those empty concentration camps in US through the the martial law. But I doubt many would "report" their neighbours, there is just not enough hatred there, historically speaking.

Originally posted by Detailed Perfection

Factor in budgetary cutbacks, officers being fired or quitting, and the population growing daily ... It's absolutely impossible for the police force to maintain a presence that would deter criminals for conducting their business.

I agree that the system will have it's fair share of abuse, but in this case, the Pros far out weigh the Cons when it comes to protecting a city that needs all the help it can get.

Did you factor in the amount of manpower it will take to investigate all the bogus snitches?

There won't be enough real terrorists investigators left to put together a vollyball team.

Now just how would you determine the real terrorist threat from the bogus ones?

Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by Detailed Perfection

Factor in budgetary cutbacks, officers being fired or quitting, and the population growing daily ... It's absolutely impossible for the police force to maintain a presence that would deter criminals for conducting their business.

I agree that the system will have it's fair share of abuse, but in this case, the Pros far out weigh the Cons when it comes to protecting a city that needs all the help it can get.

Did you factor in the amount of manpower it will take to investigate all the bogus snitches?

There won't be enough real terrorists investigators left to put together a vollyball team.

Now just how would you determine the real terrorist threat from the bogus ones?

Actually, that's not something that I myself have to worry about because I am not part of the LAPD, hell I don't even live in Cali. That is something that they are going to have to deal with.

As I said, there will no doubt be abuse to the system, but it is still a helpful effort none the less.

Originally posted by Detailed Perfection

As I said, there will no doubt be abuse to the system, but it is still a helpful effort none the less.

I'll bet you will be singing a different tune when you are in some holding cell while they run your prints because some snitch, you don't even know didn't like your looks and iWatched your plates.

This is going nation wide and Texas will follow California.

It's a brave new world; welcome to the monkey house.

[edit on 25-10-2009 by whaaa]

By all accounts, America uses 911 to try and get advice to fix microwaves and help with math homework. I can only imagine the calls a line like this will get.

So what was once a phantom enemy is now possibly your neighbor?

What is the criteria now for determining a 'T'?

Are the questions we ask considered 'T' actions?

Is questioning "authorities" considered "T' ism?

Are the problems we discuss here considered 'T' activities?