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LAPD's 'Orwellian' anti-terror ads creeping out viewers

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posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 02:25 AM
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Government buildings

I can just see the first idiot out there all gung ho.
He's really out to do his part as a good citizen, watching Govt. buildings and all the other things listed.
Until the jackazz is gunned down by police after people reported a suspicious man casing Govt. buildings

That's not even the first thing that will happen.
First thing some deep under cover FBI guys (so deep they don't even know)
will be gunned down by the local P.D. after some patriart puts his nose where it didn't belong.
All kinds of porn can be brought to this canvas .
Bad idea imo.



[edit on 26-10-2009 by randyvs]




posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 02:25 AM
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Tax money at work gotta love it.

How about we create away to even further burden our limited law enforcement. Instead of finding away to feedi the 1 in 6 americans that go hungry with food that is NOT made in china.

Who thinks of these things? Is this the stimulus creating jobs???




posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 02:25 AM
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The importance here is who needs to know. What is need to know basis? Have we not the right to look up building plans, or draw our capitol buildings? The problem is the average person on the street isn't trained to differentiate, and this could lead to many dead ends and wasted time for our police forces.

And people have been locked up without a court trial or proper investigation. There are people right now sitting in a prison in cuba who have no evidence of wrongdoing against them.

In itself it seems likes a logical step in combating a force that is not wholly obvious. But what are the qualifications? The ad is too vague, and doesn't discern between suspicious and actual threats to security.



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by randyvs
Until the jackazz is gunned down by police after people reported a suspicious man casing Govt. buildings


That wasn't very funny because it wasn't logically correct.

Police don't just gun people down based on suspicion. They will approach the guy, restrain the guy for their safety, and then question him, and if the police are still suspicious they will do further investigation.


Originally posted by Black47
How about we create away to even further burden our limited law enforcement.


How is investigating suspicious activity a burden on law enforcement? That is their job.... they are trained to do that.

I guess you never heard of Neighborhood Watch?


Originally posted by Black47
Instead of finding away to feedi the 1 in 6 americans that go hungry with food that is NOT made in china.


There are free shelters for hungry people to go to. There is no excuse for that...


Originally posted by Black47
Who thinks of these things? Is this the stimulus creating jobs???


Neighborhood watch has been around for a very long time. It's common sense to get people aware about crime in their area, and to have them report it to authorities.

Now that I think of it, Law Enforcement jobs would increase by demand if people start reporting more suspicious activity.



Originally posted by Seiko
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The importance here is who needs to know. What is need to know basis? Have we not the right to look up building plans, or draw our capitol buildings?


You can look up building plans, and draw the capitol buildings all you want, nobody is stopping you. However if authorities also find you buying explosive making materials then you have a problem.

Authorities need to know if people are planning terrorist acts...


Originally posted by Seiko
The problem is the average person on the street isn't trained to differentiate, and this could lead to many dead ends and wasted time for our police forces.


How do you suppose you fix that problem? You educate people on how to differentiate, and what to look for. That is the idea behind iWatch... it's to educate people on activities to watch for, and to get them to be more aware of said activities.

Having police investigate suspicious activity is NOT wasted time.. that is their job.



Originally posted by Seiko
And people have been locked up without a court trial or proper investigation. There are people right now sitting in a prison in cuba who have no evidence of wrongdoing against them.


Prove that to be true with local police like in LA and then we can talk...until then... how do you know those people in cuba have "no evidence of wrongdoing" if they haven't been in court or investigated? I think you have been misled.



Originally posted by Seiko
In itself it seems likes a logical step in combating a force that is not wholly obvious. But what are the qualifications? The ad is too vague, and doesn't discern between suspicious and actual threats to security.


I just posted a list of activities that iWatch teaches to look out for. Also that ad clearly states "let the authorities decided if it is a threat".

iWatch is just for reporting tips, not actual crimes.

iWatch is just like Neighborhood Watch, are you against that too?



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 03:20 AM
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Originally posted by ALLis0NE

Police don't just gun people down based on suspicion.



Yes they do.

Why cant you see that?





posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 03:31 AM
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I'm talking about police getting a tip that someone is taking pictures of a building, and then finding that guy, and shooting him on the spot. Police don't do that.

The only time police open fire is when they feel their life, or other life, is on the line.

Police officers are not killer robots, they are people with friends and family. Sure some police make mistakes, but most of you people have been brainwashed to think they are mindless drones without feelings.

Why can't you see that? (besides being bainwashed by fear mongers on the net)


[edit on 26-10-2009 by ALLis0NE]



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 04:22 AM
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The Capitol beltway has had these kinds of messages all over the freeways for years now - "report suspicious behaviour" "call this number ..."

It creeped me out when I first saw it. I think this add is indeed very creepy. They are oversimplifying and overdramatizing both at the same time.

A straight forward, matter-of-fact presentation of what constitutes suspicious behaviour followed with the number to call would have sufficed. As it is this looks like brainwashing with all those closeup shots into people's eyeballs.

Really, really creepy!



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posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 05:54 AM
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Baloney, the worst enemy a government have It's his own people, specially when the government is been run by corruption and private interest like in the US right now.

Fighting terrorism my big Latino arse, our government is starting to get increasingly afraid of we the people, the blatant disregard for the well being in the nation is something that they no longer hide from the masses, tax payer and the voters, they are selling our nation to foreign interests undermining our nations safety and they dare to said they are fighting terrorism, actually they are inviting terrorism into our own nation because of greed.



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by verylowfrequency

As far as I'm concerned the people that made this video and anyone who stands up for it is guilty of treason against the citizens of the U.S and the U.S. Constitution and should either hang until dead of spend the rest of their lives behind bars.



After their fair trials of course and where the death penalty is applicable.


It is important that they be allowed the opportunity to plead guilty in return for a reduced sentence. Also, plea bargains should be allowed to be made that would have them provide us with information and for their testimony against other criminals.


(I do not think hanging would be sanctioned by the courts. Especially since there are less cruel ways to carry out such sentences)



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by whaaa
And before you rag on those hip young folks on the ad....They ain't real...
just poor actors like me trying to make a living.

[edit on 25-10-2009 by whaaa]


Don't you think we know that, but i cannot stand what they represent, scummy society.



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by Radiobuzz
Creepy indeed! Just like in the book where some kids report their parents and they get executed for being against Big Brother.

On a different note:


Originally posted by whaaa
features a multicultural line-up of speakers


I like how some americans think that a guy is hispanic simply because he's called Carlos, although he talks and looks like any other regular american.


Do you mean just like you think that a guy named Carlos who talks and looks like any other "regular" American cannot be Hispanic?

In effect you are implying that Hispanics cannot look/sound like "regular" Americans as if they all had accents and appearances which are obviously different.

More importantly you have completely perverted the word "multi-cultural" and presented it as having something to do with race.

That's probably why the author used the word "multi-cultural" rather than "multi-racial".

Pot/Kettle blah bla



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by Detailed Perfection
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I live in a small town of 14,000 where nearly everyone knows everyone in some way. One could call it The Cheers of West Texas.

I see the point that you're trying to make, albeit a weak one at best ..

So then we're ALL in agreement, the whole iWatch idea is huge waste of time and just a nefarious means for the NWO/Illuminai/Masons/Reptilians/(insert dark group hell bent on world domination here) to enslave and conquer society.

Now that that's out of the way and taken care of ...

What then do YOU propose would be a 100% efficient and result guaranteed means to combat terrorism?




Ignore it. Catch them if you can (in the act).

If you strip rights/privacy/assets from peaceful citizens in the name of a "war on terror", then the terrorists win... as well as the financiers whom put it all in motion.



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 07:05 AM
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This is like the UK scheme thats been around for a few years. I was in the police station recently and saw a poster on the wall with a picture of flat buzzers(apartments to our colonial american cousins) and the 3rd flat number was scribbled out and it said above it..
"If you suspect it's a terrorist base..report it"
then underneath it says..
"Or let the unthinkable happen"
call the anti terrorist hotline on: 0800 blah blah blah
"Protecting the community"



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 07:23 AM
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This is beginning to sound like a front for LAPD to begin investigating people of interest to them...and not necessarily based on anything reported.

The reason I think it's bogus is because there is no way that the LAPD has the manpower -- nor does any other police force -- to respond, investigate, or even answer the thousands of calls a day this could possibly result in. Police departments generally get hundreds a calls in the first hour or so of publishing a TIP line number for a particular incident in which they ask for the public's assistance. Now, open that up to everything that the public deems suspicious -- smells, sights, sounds -- and you can start to see how ridiculous this whole idea is. Plus, don't people normally call 911 when they see something potentially illegal anyway???

My thoery is that they are using this new initiative as 'cause' to investigate, detain, question anybody. I can hear it now -- "You are being brought in because we received an anonymous tip that something is going down....." With thousands of calls on record, I'm sure there will ample 'proof' of a call coming in alerting police to possible illegal activity.

This system will work beautifully for low-level crimes, non-citizen crimes, etc. No court appointed attorney is going to spend hours and hours reviewing every single call to see if there was in fact one alerting police in the first place. And if a person actually has the means to hire an attorney, I would bet a deal to be offered prior to the review of said calls.

My thinking is that the call logs of incoming iWatch calls will be sufficient to establish cause for the police to investigate. Like I said, I can't imagine this is legit since there is no way for the LAPD to actually handle all of these calls to begin with.



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posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 08:13 AM
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I don't see a big deal with this video. Given who's in charge, what did you expect? I thought most US citizens would be used to this type of propaganda by now...

Maybe it's actually a good idea. If I was a US citizen, I would ring 1800 DOB BING and report the suspicious behaviour of a few Government officials. That's the only way you're going to stop any terrorist attacks.

[edit on 26/10/09 by NuclearPaul]



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 09:07 AM
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Wow, I should have known ATS is full of people who are against civilians helping law enforcement protect the country.

You are no better than terrorists. I wouldn't doubt half of you are criminals with something to hide.


[edit on 26-10-2009 by ALLis0NE]



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by ALLis0NE
You are no better than terrorists. I wouldn't doubt half of you are criminals with something to hide.



Well now you have a place where you can report your suspicions to.


But you might find yourself suspected since you spend so much time hanging out with those you deem criminals and terrorist-types...


"No better than terrorists"

I'm glad to see you have chosen to engage so politely in discussion. It is rare to find someone who refrains from rudeness and personal attacks in the way that you do.



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