Originally posted by chiron613
I'm not sure I understand about this timewave. It's supposed to show us when certain *novel* events take place?
I may be way off base, here, but my interpretation is not that is denotes any 'events' but instead the novelty OF those events...or even novelty
that is in no way related to specific happenings...the novelty theory works on an 'average' of novelty in the universe. for some the day will be
nothing special, of others, the day will be novel.
If that's the case, then maybe what happened in July of 1942 was novel, but not newsworthy; not something that entered the consciousness of Mankind.
For example, someone discovered something, but that discovery didn't bear fruit for some time afterwards.
Just to take an example, the idea of nuclear fission used as a weapon must have occurred to someone long before it ever took place. So, that might be
where the "novelty" began, even though the actual use of fission as a weapon only took place in August of 1945.
You make a very interesting point, one for which I really have no answer. I think this is an important part of the process. Indeed, fission as a
weapon had been discussed clear back in 1939, but the 'fruits' of that weren't really realized until 45.
part of my problem is a lack of understanding. It's all just an attempt to make some sense out of it.
I suppose that October 26, 2009 might have some sort of newsworthy event. Perhaps Iran will test a nuclear weapon. Perhaps their nuclear sites will
be attacked. Maybe it's something completely unrelated to any known news items of today. The problem I see is, there are newsworthy events on many
days. How will we determine whether October 26th is just a busy news day, or whether something truly unique and noteworthy happened? What would
distinguish ordinary news from something special? In fact, what does "special" mean, when considering the timewave?
I think the idea of novelty would imply that it's not really something we have grown accustomed to. War happens every day. Now, war with Iran, would
be a big event, not so much if the US was involved, as we are great at starting wars. But again, WWII was already going on in 1942, yet novelty was
elevated dramatically on July 14th, so that would tell me that it was something other than the war that everyone had already grown accustomed to.
I'm also guilty of looking at this whole thing with my American eyes. A tendency exists for me to try and force anything to apply to the United
States. I admit my bias on that, and so have reached out to you folks, who may not be from here, to provide events that you may think were novel for
the given period.
I think, given this understanding (which I admit might be wrong), I wouldn't consider something about Iran as "special". We can see something in
the works already. I would say that it would have to be something unexpected, something that a person wouldn't ordinarily see coming. Example:
China wants to become the 51st US state. That's so bizarre, that if it happened on 10/26, I'd say timewave rocks.
The curve on this section of the wave is interesting to me because it doesn't really denote a RAPID shift...the trip to the elevated novelty is
rather gradual when compared with other events. The novelty is high, but it doesn't seem to happen 'overnight.' I think SOME events regarding Iran
could be novel...when considered from alternate perspectives...Israel being severely damaged, for example.
Whatever the case, I think it would be important to determine now what would constitute a "novel" event, rather than seeing what happens then and
trying to retrofit it into the "prediction".
I recall that the web-bot was supposedly predicting an earthquake for a certain date. The earthquake never happened, but the Madoff debacle happened.
This was considered a "hit". But seriously, that's lame. Any day is likely to have news; you can fit anything into a "prediction" after the
That is really the goal for me with this. What qualifies as novel? To be honest, if this theory is accurate and we are to believe McKenna, in a short
while, none of our speculation will matter.
The date of the use of an atomic weapon in WWII was used to seed the theory. I am very biased towards not the technological advancement as much as the
impact on human life. when I see a new small gadget that can do whizbang stuff, it impacts me little. When I see the gadget explode and kill a couple
hundred thousand people, it becomes a big deal. I'm probably way off, but that is really why I'm here today.
Thank you very much for your input.