Originally posted by fooffstarr
Not saying I subscribe to this theory, because at this time I don't. I do find it interesting however.
What came to my mind from your OP was the 'beginning of the end' of Nazi Germany was in late 1942.
They were defeated in Russia during late 1942 - early 1943 and were forced into retreat.
From that point on they only lost ground. And in 3 years time they were wiped off the map.
Perhaps some kind of turning point will occur that puts America on the backfoot this October? (I'm only singling out the US because of your
correlation between it and Nazi Germany).
And perhaps in 3 years time (2012), their defeat will become absolute.
Just playing devil's advocate with a theory I still don't quite understand
No problem, foofstarr.
I'm not real sure I 'subscribe' to this theory either. That's really what these examinations are about. I want to know if it's a tool we can
use, or if it's just another piece of useless drivel to add to the pile. (probably chasing windmills, but somebody needs to do it. )
since before I wrote the thread on the Nazis and the U.S. I've had this really weird feeling that we are seeing the same thing play out today that
they did then. That there was a dictator (in our case, either unseen, or even a collection of rulers) that made some terrible social and strategic
What I saw from the correlation between then and now was the overextension of an empire. I saw an idealistic people, convinced they were right, due
mostly to an endless stream of propaganda and fear. I saw a leader and a regime that got too convinced that they were invincible and I saw seemingly
countless battlefronts and atrocities committed in the name of 'security.' ....and then I saw the U.S. today.
To be honest, I can't help but think that a major upheaval in the world today HAS to involve the United States. I struggle with the presumed
arrogance of that statement, but reality would support it. It's not American arrogance, it's the reality that our hands are in everyone's pie. We
have troops, intelligence agents, black ops, puppets, dollars, drugs and thugs in more countries than I even knew existed. I couldn't dream this
stuff up if I tried.
Our empire is based on lies, violence and manipulation, but we hide behind some sort of strange entitlement.
When I think of Rome, France under Napoleon, Nazi Germany, I immediately correlate the 'looks' of their failures to the United States and our
ambivalence towards lessons of the past.
There is no doubt in my mind that the United States will suffer due to her own self-righteousness. That pains me, because my family and friends are
I really hope, like I said, that if there turns out to be credence in this theory, that it points instead to enlightenment, or a peaceful shift in
consciousness, but to hug THAT rainbow would make me as blind to the past as those I would I've chastised.
Thanks for your input friend. I hope we're both wrong.