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Originally posted by NOGODSINTHEUNIVERSE
a very surprising thing for all known religions there is NO single proof their gods ever have existed !
Originally posted by NOGODSINTHEUNIVERSE
gods are an invention to just serve poor minded whom have been always kept down in a mood of fear by their manipulating religious abusers.
Originally posted by CommonSense
I don't have the sources at hand, but more and more scientists have come to believe that God created the universe.
Wonderful post. Posts like this should be appreciated in this forum.
Originally posted by StrangeLands
Yes, I'll just bet those sources prove elusive...
CS, please explain why God is the answer to the "uncaused cause" (neat turn of phrase, btw, but ultimately misleading). What created God? What created the creator of God? How can God exist prior to the universe? *How* did God create matter?
These arguments are regressive. There is no mechanism by which God could have functioned, and it is therefore utterly and completely outwith the realm of science. As I said above, you either believe or not - if you do, then just accept that it doesn't have a scientific rationale and go on with your life! If you must, like me, have a scientific explanation - or at least a framework where an explanation might one day exist - then you must refute God absolutely.
Which leads us back to the topic: Aliens have all the martialed forces of science, logic and rationality in their favour. God is rendered impossible by those self-same intellectual strictures.
Originally posted by CommonSense
Contrary to your conclusion, when you seek the ultimate scientific answer to where we came from, the is only one logical answer.
Read. Appreciated. Unfortunately, it cannot be any more than theory. There is NO PROOF that there is a Supreme Being...if there was that would negate the whole concept of faith, which is what religion is based on. Remove faith by proving God is real and you risk tampering with free will. I believe in the possibility of God though.
Originally posted by CommonSense
Preest, You may want to read the link I gave to SL. I'd like to hear your thoughts.