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Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
reply to post by breakingdradles
It seems like in all the videos, they do not speak to the government, but the American people.
The ironic part of this statement is that the very "people" you are saying speak to the American people are the very people EMPLOYED by the government
Not much to add really
CIA ring any bells? propogander never went away after the war, they just got better at using it against the population.
Osama bin laden was and is a scape goat
he use to work for the american goverment when he was fighting the USSR in afganistan and then created the muja hadiem
Kinda ironic, oh and take not of this
when was the last time you seen a THREAT level on fox news?
funny? mm?
Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
Moving back to the original point of the post, isn't it the point of both sides of a conflict to justify their position?
Propaganda from either Western media or movies from terrorists, it's still propaganda.
Churchill/Hitler did the same thing in WWII, but instead of the internet they dropped leaflets
Whoever wins will be found to be 'correct' as the Winner writes the history
Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
So, official story of 9/11 - that the same terrorists confirm, in the same tape message - is false. Thus those terrorists lie. Dis-info. When the same terrorists attack US government - they are correct. ?????
It is just a propaganda war. As simple as it gets. And in particular i liked population reduction claim.
Population in 1999 6000 millions. In 2008 - 6700 millions. Thats one HUGE reduction, i say. Of course terrorists are right all along .....
I wonder what lame public relations firm those guys hired.
Were The Terrorists Right All Along?
unite all Muslims and to establish a government which follows the rule of the Caliphs
Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by breakingdradles
Oh, i am sorry. Your title:
Were The Terrorists Right All Along?
kind of misled me into thinking that you consider that terrorists were right all along (or lying). Weird mistake. Clearly off YOUR OWN topic.......
Nor did i mention,anywhere, that it is Jewish/American/Chinese/Russian/Arab/Iranian/Marsian or whatever issue.
It is propaganda war between US and major terrorist organizations. The agenda of those organizations is clear and known to all, they do not hide it. They are not fighting capitalism, US military complex or even scumbags at the office.
It's goal is:
unite all Muslims and to establish a government which follows the rule of the Caliphs
So all they say or do is to reach this goal. They would lie, say semi-truths and even total truth sometime. And if it fits your own point of view now, it is irrelevant since it is not their real point of view. They need to destabilize US,West in general and normal Muslim countries and they will use whatever inner opposition they can for this goal.
Was it on (hidden) topic or you want to discuss population reduction stupidity a little more?
Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
It is just a propaganda war. As simple as it gets. And in particular i liked population reduction claim.
Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
Moving back to the original point of the post, isn't it the point of both sides of a conflict to justify their position?
Propaganda from either Western media or movies from terrorists, it's still propaganda.
Churchill/Hitler did the same thing in WWII, but instead of the internet they dropped leaflets
Whoever wins will be found to be 'correct' as the Winner writes the history
Originally posted by SLAYER69
They seem to have killed 3000 civilians on 9/11
They seem to have blown up nightclubs killing more civilians.
They seem to have blown up passenger trains killing even more civilians.
Yup that will teach our Governments a lesson.
[edit on 14-9-2009 by SLAYER69]
Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
The term terrorist and freedom fighter depends on what side of the fence you're currently sat on.
If they're fighting against you, then they're evil terrorists fighting for a Godless religion
If they're fighting for something you believe in, then they're plucky freedom fighters with God on their side.
My position from the fence is that they're killers.
Originally posted by wazthewazzock
Originally posted by SLAYER69
They seem to have killed 3000 civilians on 9/11
They seem to have blown up nightclubs killing more civilians.
They seem to have blown up passenger trains killing even more civilians.
Yup that will teach our Governments a lesson.
[edit on 14-9-2009 by SLAYER69]
Iraq war: 101,596 civilian death count.
My maths aint good,
but i think thats more than 3 times the amount of people than any
terrorist incident has done.
And thats only 1 war ...
Originally posted by Dark Ghost
Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
Moving back to the original point of the post, isn't it the point of both sides of a conflict to justify their position?
Propaganda from either Western media or movies from terrorists, it's still propaganda.
Churchill/Hitler did the same thing in WWII, but instead of the internet they dropped leaflets
Whoever wins will be found to be 'correct' as the Winner writes the history
Very true. However, people like the OP do not - perhaps cannot - acknowledge the possibility that the other side (terrorists) might use propaganda on their enemies too. I wonder if these freedom fighters ever tell lies and distort the truth in order for others to join their cause? Or does one need to be a CIA agent to do these things?
[edit on 14/9/2009 by Dark Ghost]
Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
The term terrorist and freedom fighter depends on what side of the fence you're currently sat on.
If they're fighting against you, then they're evil terrorists fighting for a Godless religion
If they're fighting for something you believe in, then they're plucky freedom fighters with God on their side.
My position from the fence is that they're killers.
Originally posted by breakingdradles
That's a good point.
Like us, the most powerful country in the world at the time, England, thought we were killer terrorists.
Who won that round?
I know it's propaganda and can admit it fully.
Can you admit that most of what they are saying is exactly what Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Faux news and many ATS members are now stating each day?