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reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 01:46 PM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
Reply to post by Republican08


You do realise this just another "Why does 'God' allow suffering argument?" right? And is hardly a very logical argument against existance as it is a emotionally based stance that asserts such a being must act in the capacity of a Superman. I recommend a book called "The Race for God" by Brian Herbert. It's a rather good scifi book.



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reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 01:46 PM by dakota1s2
reply to post by dimensionaljumper
Just because I believe in God, that makes me a parasite? Just because you don't believe in a God (who's plan we may not fully understand until sometime in the future), that make you right???

My idea is just this. IF there is a God like the bible teaches, what harm can come to me if I live like it's so? What harm can come to me or you if it's not so??

Why do you have to trash that which you cannot rationalize or believe in?? If you don't want to believe...well, ok! I don't pretend to know all, and won't judge you for not knowing either. YOU KNOW...you don't really know!!! It's just what you are hoping is reality.


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 01:49 PM by dimensionaljumper
reply to post by randyvs



haha. the theory consists of the idea that some human minds return to the form of slime, from which we all rose up. but instead of taking millions of years, it happens in mere minutes. i believe the christians call it accepting christ into your heart.

ouch!

i might have struck a nerve with a few people here.

im not just picking on christianity tho, im calling out all religions that use the concept that man is flawed as a crutch, and therefore depend on an outside force/deity to save them and help them thru this life.

[edit on 19-8-2009 by dimensionaljumper]


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 01:53 PM by sickofitall2012
reply to post by randyvs



I don't get exactly what you meant, can you clarify? I don't see any people being directly struck down and every one else knowing it was God who did it.


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 01:54 PM by MightyAl
reply to post by Republican08



God is inside me, as I believe in myself. God identifies himself as the person he is guiding. Therefore I can say God is me, because he and I are the same. i follow my own way, and if God is there or not, he is guiding me by being me.

What God can't prevent is the actions of humans who are fighting against the will of God. God cannot stop people who fight in the name of religion. They do not belong to God, not even to Satan, but something worse that has not yet been described in literature.


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 01:54 PM by wraith001
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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post by Republican08


You do realise this just another "Why does 'God' allow suffering argument?" right? And is hardly a very logical argument against existance as it is a emotionally based stance that asserts such a being must act in the capacity of a Superman. I recommend a book called "The Race for God" by Brian Herbert. It's a rather good scifi book.



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Actually the debate is, "How can i believe in a God when there is so much Suffering"

I think the OP is trying to get some incite on to other's thought's, thus helping him to understand the way thing's are a little better. It was not intended, im sure, to start an argument and while it may not be logical for you, it is a valid question for him.

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reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 01:57 PM by dakota1s2
reply to post by dimensionaljumper
You're kidding right??? Man is not flawed??? Man is God-God is Man????
Being nice...this is outside the scope of the best of man's intellect.
You did not hit a nerve, you didn't get a rise out of or make me mad, I just don't understand the logic of "if I can't understand it then it just ain't so"




reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 02:01 PM by rickyrrr
reply to post by Republican08



I would add this..... can god regrow missing limbs?

I didn't think so!

-rrr


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 02:07 PM by FritosBBQTwist
reply to post by Helmkat



Great episode of a great show

Still, all of us are wrong, or maybe all of us are right.

There is not a select group of people who do know though.

Do you see the hypocrisy even in my own opinion? Thats all it is...


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 02:08 PM by dimensionaljumper
reply to post by dakota1s2



Dakota

Comprehension 101

i said.....

"im not just picking on christianity tho, im calling out all religions that use the concept that man is flawed as a crutch, and therefore depend on an outside force/deity to save them and help them thru this life."

I did not say that man is NOT flawed. I said that religions use this concept as a crutch, attempting to prove to humanity that man does indeed need a "savior". some deity to save man from himself. And i find it laughable. It pure and simple chalks up to some humans inability to take responsiblity for their own actions and realize that they have the intellect, the mind, and the strength to live decent, noble lives without the aid of a christ, savior, deity.

Man must save himself!!! Man must take back control of his own life, because no other thing can.
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