Originally posted by jhova
No, just because you have a 3.8 means nothing.
Aside from my academic standing, you're right, it does mean absolutely
nothing. Now, since you're the one who claimed that your 3.4 standing
in school made you an authority, perhaps you'll now admit that that means nothing, too?
I have a kid, a job, and I have come from nothing.Not to mention I only got the 3.4 barely studying, and constantly off of the sticky green.
So, we should admire your lack of hard work?
I sais the foundation for freemasons is satanism, and if you paid attention to detail, you would notice it to.
It doesn't take much "attention to detail" to notice your slanderous claims about Freemasonry. If you'd paid any attention to detail, you would
have noticed long ago that I am a Christian (nominally Anglican) and (in my estimation) a very religious person, not a Satanist. You would have also
read how the person in chargee of Scottish Rite Masonry for all of Canada is a devout Lutheran.
My grandfather was a price hall mason, and even he said that there were secrets involved, and that true masonry, was more secretive than what he was
Your grandfather claimed that Prince Hall Masonry was not "true" Masonry?
You keep not really addressing things like quotes from Albert Pike saying how it is satanism,
He never did. You are thinking of Leo Taxil
the symbols are masons, you are a damn lie.
I assume that you mean that I am a damned liar. Well, as for being damned, there's no way I can argue that with you... I have either been vouchsafed
salvation or not. It is my belief that all human beings (regardless of belief) were vouchsafed salvation through the actions of our Saviour, but that
is my opinion. You are certainly free to believe me damned to eternal perdition if it pleases you.
As for being a liar, no, I'm not, nyah nyah. Sorry, but if you say "you're a liar" without any argument, what can I say but "no, I'm not."
The government pretends to do a lot of great things too, but we all know that they are not all that nice though right.
I don't know... I like my government (that of Canada). I don't like some people who are in it, but I think that in general they do a good job.
Albert Pike even says it has secrets, secret meanings for symbols, and that the higher masons mislead those under them, who diserve to be mislead.
Nope. Albert Pike says that the explanations given for symbols in "lower mysteries" generally were misleading. This is one of the few places I
disagree with Morals and Dogma philosophically. I feel that both the "obvious" meaning of the symbols and the more esoteric ones are valid and
truthful. Just because you learn not to embezzle, doesn't mean that you forget that shoplifting is wrong.
YOur first year of masters, is still not a masters, remeber that!
I'd go even further... the credential is meaningless to our discussion. I'm glad you agree, since you seemed to feel earlier that your 3.4 average
was significant to our talk, somehow.
You cannot change what has been written, you can't change the symbols, and everything you say just isn't.
This is either incomplete or terribly profound. It's true that everything I say isn't, for all is a manfiestation of the power of the Allmighty,
and for me to lay claim even to my own words is hubris. But I'm not sure if this is what you intended.
Anybody whoi pays wattention to detail will know.I AM NOT STUPID!
I'm sure you're not. So why do you let Freemasonry Watch and Cutting Edge Ministries do your thinking for you?
So what I said the moon goddess, your point?People on this site swear that they can prove something, or can twist what someone says, but when they
try, they are just not that good at it.
That's true, some people can do that.
All of you guys sites are either made by masons, or researched throuhg masons, so of course they are not going to come out and say"Yeah we are
satanists, you bet ya, come on in!"
True, we would not say that if we were Satanists and liars, and we also would not say that if we were good decent people. I guess you actually have
to use your noodle and trust your fellow human beings.
I can tell that you have had money all of your life, and your race is in the upper majority.If you have struggled like I have, you could tell bs a
Hmmm. I myself was very priveledged as a child. On the other hand, my parents were separated during an important point in my development, which made
me very sad. On the other hand, I was always exposed to the best public schools because of my test scores (which I don't think are necessarily
valid). On the other hand, I was abused in bad ways by certain people when I was a child. On the other hand, my parents have always been supportive,
Gee, I guess I've had both positive and negative influences in my life. Maybe now that I'm an adult, I have to start taking responsibility for my
own actions, and not judging people on the basis of whether or not they grew up poor?
YTry dealing with people who try and rob and steal from you everyday, by using discreet swindling tactics, you will start to be able to tell it from a
Could be. I am very trusting of people, you see. This has less to do with having money than it does with the words of a certain Exemplar I hold dear
who told me to turn the other cheek (something I have to practice more), to love my enemies as myself, to be charitable, etc.
Sorry to be so open about having grown up in a moneyed family. We don't really seem to have the same feeling about that up here as some people
apparently do down in the states... down there, it seems, some people evaluate other people based on how much money they had growing up. Up here,
we're forced to base our judgements on a person's integrity and character.
You probably could not.You see, when you have everything, or used to everything being giving to you, you rarely realize how bad people can really
I try not to. I try to think the best of everyone, and love my enemy as I love myself.
Oh I got a 3.8, so?You are no better or smarter than me, friend.
I know I'm not. Do you? You seem to very aggressively attack other people. In my experience, this means that you're not as confident of yourself
as you might be.
Your own man said what he said, the pieces fit, get a clue.
My own man? Jesus? Mohammed? Krishna?
Perhaps you mean my sovereign, Her Royal Majesty? Ah, but she is a woman.
You don't mean Moses, do you?
Oh, wait... I see... you probably mean Albert Pike. Albert Pike was a brilliant philosopher, and many of the things he said move me deeply. These
were things about equality of all humans, freedom of thought, and care for each other. He had a few faults. He sometimes wrote mean, untrue things
about black people... yet he was good friends with the black Grand Master of the Prince Hall Lodge. Many of the things you think he wrote,
he did not
So, what things specifically that he said are you upset about?
[Edited on 18-5-2004 by AlexKennedy]