WTF does MGS have to do with me? Is it a crime or something for me to play video games? Jesus, just because my avatar is from a video game doesn't mean I'm less credible than you

Young man, get an education, put away the wargames, and based on your signature, I'd also recommend some professional help. Everyone could use some once in a while.

And until you get some things squared away, I'd recommend you stay out of the military. You won't make it, your attitude will not be tolerated, and it will be a miserable experience.

Gee, aren't you the psychologist

If you want respect, maybe you should show some instead of making BS assumptions of other people. I came here to discuss the topic on hand, not to be PMS'd on by some guy who thinks he knows it all.

You think you know life? You don't know anything until you go out and it gets beat into you. Quotes from the past mean nothing on the modern world, and the most important thing to realize in the modern world is that everyone is different, especially in opinion and knowledge. You sign your own fate when you believe that nobody else can be on your level, that's my advice to you and it is what I learned the hard way. Open your mind and the world will be open to you. Keep your mind closed, and you'll be just as important as the next man down the street.

Whatever happened to "deny ignorance"?

BTW, my sig happens to be lyrics from probably the only original and real band of the 21st century, Metric (they're Canadian, sorry for being the best )


[edit on 29-8-2009 by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi]

If you knew anything, you would know that true knowledge is not something that can be passed on through words.

I honestly wish that I could pass on my knowledge of the world onto you, but it is impossible to express what I know in mere words. If I expressed myself through actions, then I would be considered a monster. Life is a conundrum and the best you can do is just live for yourself, not by the words of others.

If I tell you "a hot stove will burn you" and I was told that by my parents, and their parents before them, and their parents before them, for a hundred generations, then friend, that's not exactly a truism that needs personal experience.

haha, that's funny that you used that quote (it brings back drunken memories)... for you see, you bring up a good point. There are the people who will avoid the hot stove to avoid the pain, but there are also the people who will place their hand on the stove to prove that pain can be most enlightening if you do not fear it.

Do not get me wrong though, just because we are of the opposite spectrum does not mean we are more wrong or right than the other. Pretty soon the world will be back in the hands of philosophers and it will be people like us who will decide humanity's future. Do you agree?

i'm posting again, because i dont want you who served to look at what i wrote and think ill of it.

i agree that you can kill your way to winning a way, and usually its the only way

"BELLA HORIDA BELLA" -Virgil

but i believe the OP was only saying that we won strictly off the fact that we killed more of them, which to me is juvenile.

another thing: it's not the soldiers fault if a war is lost, but rather if the reasons for it, and the people behind the curtain make this war a loss from the start.

you are absolutely right that, in order to win a war, you have to hit them with everything first and never hold back until its over.

like right now in afghanistan, i heard a report saying that they can only detain prisoners caught for a specific amount of time before they release them back on the battle field.

how can you do that and ever expect to make grounds.

for those that served, there's nothing more you could have done. you guys are awesome.

for those that ruled. you suck!

i think the parallels that are being drawn between this war in Iraq and Vietnam are the fact that we shouldnt have been there in the first place. our leaders made that call.

they gave the place, time, and the rules that you had to play by.

you played your hardest, but its just not your fault that people view the wars that way. taking it out on you (the soldier) is the worst thing that could have happened.

i think thats one of the more positive things that have happened between this and vietnam, as the soldier has much more support from the citizens.

we still dont like the leaders, but at least the blame is going in the right direction this time.

we should only invade a place, if a country invades us, or if we are trying to conquer somewhere for the purpose of CONQUERING IT.

for God's sake, stop this trying to fix other countries problems.

take them over, blow them up, or leave them alone i say.

why did we invade iraq on the suspicion they had weapons, and not north korea, and we KNOW they have weapons????

Veitnam War casualties:

North Vietnam, China, USSR, Veitcong
Total dead: ~1,177,446
Total wounded: ~604,000+

South Veitnam, US, Austrailia, Laos, New Zealand, Thailand, South Korea
Total dead: 315,831
Total wounded: ~1,490,000+

...in the end the US and its allied forces pulled out of South Veitnam and the South Veitnamese Government fell to the North Veitnamese Communists... we (the alliied forces) lost the war. period. Casualties are not everything. In the American Civil War, Grants Campaign against Lee in Northern Virginia that would eventually end the war... Grant lost far more men then Lee did, yet as we all know (we should anyways) The Northern armies beat Lee's army and we occupied and re-annenxed the south.

I've already said that I'm in the process of joining the military, so obviously I haven't been in warfare yet. But make no mistake, I have lots of survival experience, both with nature and with people. I have enough skills to know what it takes to survive, and I have the intelligence to think why I am doing it. Combat is just the ultimate survival experience and I'm sure I'll fair quite well, at least compared to almost every single person I've ever met in my life.

And you keep talking about video games and you keep sounding like an ass. I know you're more mature than that so act it if you want my respect, and you'll get it

I am a civilian. My life is worthless. Why would I want to be the same person again? And it's not like I haven't been to extremes before, war is just something that I'll be on everyone else's standards instead of being alone.