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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by Wimbly
My problem with it is that we have a huge problem.
Healthcare the way it stands is in serious need of revamping.
And ALL I HEAR are people throwing stones at the current proposed bill... I don't hear anyone offering other solutions...
That's my issue.
(1) Tort reform: As I wrote recently, our crazy system of casino malpractice suits results in massive and random settlements that raise everyone's insurance premiums and creates an epidemic of defensive medicine that does no medical good, yet costs a fortune.
What to do? Abolish the entire medical-malpractice system. Create a new social pool from which people injured in medical errors or accidents can draw. The adjudication would be done by medical experts, not lay juries giving away lottery prizes at the behest of the liquid-tongued John Edwardses who pocket a third of the proceeds.
(2) Real health-insurance reform: Tax employer-provided health-care benefits and return the money to the employee with a government check to buy his own medical insurance, just as he buys his own car or home insurance.
There is no logical reason to get health insurance through your employer. This entire system is an accident of World War II wage and price controls. It's economically senseless. It makes people stay in jobs they hate, decreasing labor mobility and therefore overall productivity.
The health-care benefit exemption is the largest tax break in the entire U.S. budget, costing the government a quarter-trillion dollars annually. It hinders health-insurance security and portability as well as personal independence. If we additionally eliminated the prohibition on buying personal health insurance across state lines, that would inject new and powerful competition that would lower costs for everyone.
Originally posted by wantsome
[Rupert Murdoch, Bill Gates and Time/Warner all have thier own agenda's they push. I don't like the media at all but I have to say some are blantantly worse then others. The media does manipulate the info to pursuade the views of the common couch potato.
Originally posted by jimmyx
FOX NEWS is the only people telling you this... the health care bill isn't even written yet and nothing you said above is in this legislation
Originally posted by HunkaHunkaWow... So this below.. the thing which says MEMO... isn't a memo? I mean it says RIGHT THERE ... POLITICAL ACTION MEMO... I didn't make that up.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/b406d8fccdeb7df1.png[/atsimg]
They are even going on BUSSES! Here is an article from a Richmond Newspaper
[edit on 7-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]
Originally posted by sos37
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by Wimbly
My problem with it is that we have a huge problem.
Healthcare the way it stands is in serious need of revamping.
And ALL I HEAR are people throwing stones at the current proposed bill... I don't hear anyone offering other solutions...
That's my issue.
That's because you're not listening or you don't want to hear what's being offered.
Four Republican Congressmen have offered up an alternative to nationalized health care by way of the Patients' Choice Act.
“The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” transforms health care in America by strengthening the relationship between the patient and the doctor; using choice and competition rather than rationing and restrictions to contain costs; and ensuring universal, affordable health care for all Americans.
www.house.gov...
It doesn't have the price tag of the stupid Obama health care bill, it doesn't have NEARLY the government control that the Obama bill does AND it won't wreck our economy.
But I guess since it was introduced by Republicans, it's obviously a bad idea, right?
Notice I don't care about those without healthcare right now... as Business owner I am more concerned with the fact that my health care bill that I pay for my employees has shot up more than 100% over the past 3 years.
Originally posted by Kords21
reply to post by DrMattMaddix
That was good. Very appropriate and a nice metaphor. Been a while since I laughed that hard.
Originally posted by wantsome
^^^ I think the adminstration has a right to be heard without the misinformed inturupting and causing a sceen as they are prone to do.
Originally posted by earlywatcher
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by Wimbly
My problem with it is that we have a huge problem.
Healthcare the way it stands is in serious need of revamping.
And ALL I HEAR are people throwing stones at the current proposed bill... I don't hear anyone offering other solutions...
That's my issue.
I agree that healthcase as it currently exists in the US is unsustainable, and it is currently rationed, but having the government take it over and make it worse is not the answer.
(1) Tort reform: As I wrote recently, our crazy system of casino malpractice suits results in massive and random settlements that raise everyone's insurance premiums and creates an epidemic of defensive medicine that does no medical good, yet costs a fortune.
What to do? Abolish the entire medical-malpractice system. Create a new social pool from which people injured in medical errors or accidents can draw. The adjudication would be done by medical experts, not lay juries giving away lottery prizes at the behest of the liquid-tongued John Edwardses who pocket a third of the proceeds.
(2) Real health-insurance reform: Tax employer-provided health-care benefits and return the money to the employee with a government check to buy his own medical insurance, just as he buys his own car or home insurance.
There is no logical reason to get health insurance through your employer. This entire system is an accident of World War II wage and price controls. It's economically senseless. It makes people stay in jobs they hate, decreasing labor mobility and therefore overall productivity.
The health-care benefit exemption is the largest tax break in the entire U.S. budget, costing the government a quarter-trillion dollars annually. It hinders health-insurance security and portability as well as personal independence. If we additionally eliminated the prohibition on buying personal health insurance across state lines, that would inject new and powerful competition that would lower costs for everyone.
Washington Post
start with these things. they won't cost anything except maybe the huge amounts of money currently paid by trial lawyer lobbyists to the dems. see where we're at once these things are instituted. make one or two adjustments at a time.
obama claims health care reform is his signature issue. maybe it's time he set his ego aside and consider what is best for the country.