Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by HunkaHunka
Even if what you say is true, which is highly doubtful I might add, they still have a right to speak to their representatives and have their questions
and concerns addressed.
Oh I agree, and the representatives have the right to have this conversation in a civil and rational manner.
If you really want to be so blind and pretend everyone is a part of the obcene and mindless two party charade system that is your right as a
Really? People who think that America is a mindless two party system are scoialists and communists? To be honest I thought there were TONS of
anti-NWO people who feel that America is a mindless two party charade.
Not that I feel this way, just that there are a lot of libertarians on the NWO forum which would take umbrage with your statement.
No, I believe that the media rotates and syncopates slow paced brains. Not everyone... just the mentally weak.
There are though lots of people who do not belong to any party, do not vote Democrat or Republican that still are CITIZENS and still DON'T LIKE THE
IDEA OF GOVERNMENT IN THE HEALTH CARE BUSINESS.
Fair enough... but the memos which were sent out, were not sent out by independents... they were sent out by the conservative right.
Only a fool or a very evil person would claim that no one has a legitimate concern or greivance
Oh I agree.. my questions is why is it that all the grievances being aired aren't on the memos being sent out?
Why is it that the questions being asked are verbatim from the memos but when asked to elaborate, the same people start sounding like Palin behind a
and that it is all simply about two party politics in a shallow and transparent attempt to dismiss all dissent and potential better ideas along with
Not at all... what I'm trying to dismiss are people who don't have any real grievances or answers themselves.
I really don't believe that a government of the people makes any sense when there is just grievances... there also has to be solutions coming from
Solutions to problems like people who have paid their insurance premiums for over a decade just to have their insurance agency not follow through on
The amount of money spent by health care insurers just to take claims to court to get them dismissed.
Are you forgetting about these problems that people also have grievances about? Do you see us who have these issues carrying on like children? No,
we elected the people we felt best represent these issues.
Two heads are better than one, and three heads are better than two...According to the Greeks who invented Democracy it works best when as many people
speak to the issues as humanly possible.
Exactly... and that's the problem here. What we see with the Town-Hall screamers is not people "speaking to the issues", it's the verbal
equivalent of throwing fruit at someone. They aren't looking for actual answers, the memos tell them just to cause a ruckus and make others feel the
same way. In a nutshell the memos are saying "Wag the dog".
How is it you think Democracy works best when only a 'select' group of people are 'allowed' to speak to the issues, and only along narrowly
'defined' parametors, and only in support of the Government and the ruling party?
I never said that. Now you are putting words in my mouth. misspelled ones at that.
No what I said was that hollering and screaming is not acceptable. You want to talk about problems, talk about problems, don't act like the drunk
uncle at a wedding.
That sounds like tyranny to me, not democracy.
What does? Expecting people to act civil? Seems like you would feel anarchy is the best form of gov.
It says a lot that the ideas and notions going into these bills are so faulty and frail that the people who authored them and support them are AFRAID
to speak to people who have INTELLIGENT questions about them.
I haven't seen any intelligent questions being asked... have you?
All I am hearing is "Why should we trust you to run healthcare when you can't get the cash for clunkers right?" This is a misdirection which is
not an actual question about the healthcare bill, it's simply an attempt to throw political feces at people.
These people who have acquired these memos and are going out only to holler and scream are pretty much the same as that guy who called Buzz Aldrin a
liar. They are getting in their faces and making accusations, but they aren't actually interested in solving the problems which exist.
ALL Americans should have a right to be heard, America is not just for Kenyans!
Yes Americans have the right to be heard, but when you are exercising that right with all the decorum of a three-year-old with a tantrum, then you've
stepped over the line of the rights of others.