Cool, so I guess Obama won't have any problem releasing the real long form birth certificate. Right?

It would be more reasonable to post a forged Hawaiian birth certificate to really f w/ Obama.

I didn't realize Orly was an Israeli Citizen. Interesting.


Also She's on Michael Savage right now, and he is not supporting her story at all... he's agreeing whole heartedly on the politics... he doesn't like Obama at all... but he said "I'm staying out of it, because it's not my issue".

Originally posted by Riposte
Cool, so I guess Obama won't have any problem releasing the real long form birth certificate. Right?

I am sure people have told you this before. The short form certificate is the ONLY one the state of Hawaii will give you if you request a copy of your birth certificate - it is the official birth certificate of the State of Hawaii. The Department of Health has done TWO official statements on this issue. The Republican Governor of the State of Hawaii has even stated this. The original certificates are held by the Hawaiian Department of Health and are used to produce certified copies on demand from people who request them, such as what Obama did in 2007 when he was campaigning.

Please - ask for the long form again! Ask! Ask! Ask! If you shout and squint your eyes, perhaps you can reshape reality via will power alone. Let me know how that works out. If you want the law in Hawaii to change, lobby their state government. There is no way that Obama can get a document that no other Hawaiian citizen, except those with a tangible legal interest, can request without abusing his authority as the President.

I'm an attorney - please don't give me your own personal definition of "a tangible legal interest." The only definition that matters is the definition set by state legislators when they wrote the statute.

Hint: Irrational concern that Black man is the President is NOT "a tangible legal interest."

I have to say this whole birther thing went from pathetic, to hilarious, to sad in the last 36 hours. Although thankfully now that the entire movement has been discredited and this hoax been completely debunked, we can all move on with our lives and start rallying around Obama's abuse of the economy and growth of the fed.

Seriously though just when you think the right couldn't get any dumber...

This could be a "disinfo" layer. Planting a hoax is a perfect way to discredit a theory.

Can someone help me on this.

If BHO jr father BHO Sr is and was knowingly born in Kenya doesnt that just prove the fact that BHO jr is not a natural born citizen?

Barack Obama Sr. was born in Kanyadhiang village, Rachuonyo District[1] on the shores of Lake Victoria just outside Kendu Bay, Kenya, at the time a colony of the British Empire, and raised in the village of Nyang’oma Kogelo, Siaya District, Nyanza Province.

Originally posted by epete22
Can someone help me on this.

If BHO jr father BHO Sr is and was knowingly born in Kenya doesnt that just prove the fact that BHO jr is not a natural born citizen?

Barack Obama Sr. was born in Kanyadhiang village, Rachuonyo District[1] on the shores of Lake Victoria just outside Kendu Bay, Kenya, at the time a colony of the British Empire, and raised in the village of Nyang’oma Kogelo, Siaya District, Nyanza Province.

Yeah it most certainly does! Now you just have to convince the state of Hawaii, the judicial system, the supreme court, and both house and senate who all seem to disagree. But hey! At least we know the truth.

[edit on 3-8-2009 by CuriousSkeptic]

The following quote is why the birthers will NEVER give up even if Obama does release his long form original BC. And this was never REALLY about his BC at all.

I just saw a video that said that even if Obama was born in the United States, he still wouldn't be natural born since we wasn't born to two American citizens. His dad was subject to the British crown.

Sadly these guys will be with us for the next 4/8 years.
Maybe they are practicing for 2012.

I wanna say "I hope people learn from this"...but they're not gonna.

I bet as we speak people are still scrambling to find a way to believe in this farce.
Oh and as I said in an earlier thread, Taitz is a looney.

What sort of lawyer would bring such rubbish to a court room?

Birther Lawyers, thats who.

I would say she should be disbarred for being so clueless but she isn't even a member of the ABA and I think she needs a few more online courses in the practice of law. Perhaps she should even consult an online shrink because after that MSNBC interview most people will be assured that she is a wide-eyed nutcase with a bizarre illogical agenda that shrieks like a banshee when she can't answer a question. It doesn't help that she also needs a few more English lessons because she gets a bit incoherent every now and then. For a lawyer taking on the president with pure garbage she has a lot of nerve. More nerves than brains it seems.

She isn't the only one though.

What about the Berg case where he and his lawyer presented Obama's forged Canadian birth certificate as actual evidence, which was signed by none other than Duddly-friggin-Doright?

Who misses that stuff?
How could you not see that on the document?!

Birthers are going into the deep end of the fantasy world where believing equates to fact.
To date, there is still NO evidence to support their claims.
Nothing at all and everything they present is laughable.
The evidence they create isn't even passable as a decent forgery.

I'm tempted to suggest "birther threads" be BANISHED to that place where the "reptilian" ones now dwell in obscurity. ATS should stop hosting these ridiculous claims when nothing presented ever amounts to a damn thing no matter how many hundreds of flags and stars they get.

The election is OVER. It's DONE, already.

Suck it up people, you're embarrassing yourselves.



- Lee

This all reminds me of when Clinton was elected. The right wing lost it's collective mind and spent 8 years throwing all kinds of mud at the man hoping that something... anything... would stick and they could have him thrown out of office.

Turned out that Bill liked to get his freak on and that provided them with the chance they needed to ruin him. It ultimately failed, but hey, at least they got to impeach him.

So now we have the Clinton years redux. Obama's not a citizen. He wants to take your guns. He's going to raise taxes. His healthcare reforms are designed to kill old people and abort as many babies as possible. He was born in Kenya.

Throwing the mud, hoping that something... anything... will finally stick and they can get him out of office.