posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:55 AM
To hear the Birthers tell it, their Holy Grail has been found: Over the weekend, de facto movement leader Orly Taitz released a photo of
what is supposedly a certified copy of a Kenyan birth certificate for President Obama, which shows that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not
The movement is, naturally, all abuzz. But even people who might normally be inclined to support it, like the founder of conservative forum
FreeRepublic.com and the Birthers' favorite self-proclaimed document expert, who declared Obama's Hawaiian certification of live birth a forgery,
are calling foul. The document is just another in an increasingly long line of fakes intended to prove Obama wasn't born in the U.S.
How do we know?
First of all, Obama was born in Hawaii. He has released a copy of his actual birth certificate -- the same kind of copy anyone requesting
their birth certificate from the state would get -- and it has repeatedly been authenticated by Hawaii officials. They've also said that
they've checked the original record in their files, and that Obama was born in Hawaii. Those records are supported by two newspaper
announcements from the time of the president's birth -- and those announcements weren't submitted by the family, but taken from hospital
The Birthers won't care about that, of course -- they haven't yet.
Well, this doesn't help the partisan support much....
de facto movement leader Orly Taitz
There is no 'movement'. It is characterized that way because so many people are asking 'inconvenient questions' which the partisans simply froth
over.... Taitz leads no one.
supposedly a certified copy of a Kenyan birth certificate
that they can make this assertion since they spoke with Kenyan officials ... too bad they didn't say so - weak journalism
The document is just another in an increasingly long line of fakes intended to prove Obama wasn't born in the U.S.
I haven't seen any others from Kenya, but I'm sure many forgeries will be released to keep the waters of truth murky... the way it is meant to be
How do we know?
First of all, Obama was born in Hawaii.
Nice, circular logic.
actual birth certificate
'fraid not. Had this issue been resolved as this directly implies, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
repeatedly been authenticated by Hawaii officials.
Disingenuous characterization of facts, it was never 'authenticated' it was claimed to have been authenticated by ONE government of Hawaii official,
TWICE - not 'repeatedly, unless you count the talking media heads and the partisan defenders of the faith.
They've also said that they've checked the original record in their files, and that Obama was born in Hawaii.
Again! Disingenuous characterization, it was by virtue of saying that 'they checked' that they claim it was authenticated; thus it does not follow
automatically that it was.
supported by two newspaper announcements from the time of the president's birth -- and those announcements weren't submitted by the family, but
taken from hospital records.
Oh well, if they say it was in the newspaper it MUST be true? No one gets away with that logic around here, regardless of the position you cling
It's only fair that the sloppy pro Obama effort is as lame as the sloppy so-called 'birther' effort. Seems like both sides slowly sink into an
abyss of nonsensical crap now.... it's a shame really, because this is far too important to turn into a partisan game.
It is a tribute to the MSM and our now all but defunct 'free' press that this issue is not over and done with. I guess that's the whole point of
[edit on 3-8-2009 by Maxmars]