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Originally posted by Pappie54
You would have to get a lot of people to go alone with the fraud and you cannot tell me that hundreds of key scientist and engineers of NASA would have been corrupt and would just accept being part of a fraud.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Exuberant1
Does this mean you are sticking to your contention that there's no proof man (namely Apollo Missions) has been to the Moon?
ASP is an acronym for "Apollo Simulation Project", which was created in 1961 and operated by the DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) to "help" NASA with their technical problems by establishing a totally simulated moon mission.
ASP was a total secrecy project along the same lines as the Manhattan Project of World War II. The Manhattan Project ultimately employed some 300,000 people and hardly a word was leaked out.
The ASP base was constructed on land controlled by the (then) Atomic Energy Commission and surrounded by other military bases. Scattered throughout these arid Moon-like properties near Mercury, Nevada are super-secret site after secret site. Top level management was provided by CIA spooks. Interface personnel were hired as needed and paid top dollar and then released as necessary (with the required "never tell" NASA warnings backed by the muscle of the CIA).
-pg 54, 61 Kaysing 'We Never Went to The Moon'
"Also installed at the "Cuss" base was the true master control center of which the so-called Mission Control and the Spacecraft Center at Houston were merely satellites or slaves.
The master control of Cuss (MASCONCULL) collected all data, programmed it into a computer which then coordinated the entire moon landing simulation. Since all releases were by well-edited tape, there was no chance of a blooper. Again, the total control of news by the American corporate state set an effective precedent for the totally controlled output of MASCONCULL. From prelaunch countdown to the final descent to the ocean, all sound and video transmissions emanated from the flawless and mechanistic heart of a speciallymodified IBM 370-C computer."
-pg 63, Kaysing 'We Never Went to The Moon'
Originally posted by Exuberant1
Check this out - these are images of Neil and Buzz on the Moon.
Now look at the difference as the astronaut nears the light source... this doesn't happen with sunlight and on level terrain like this:
Originally posted by THX-1138
Ya know how I know people CAN keep secrets?
Because I know secret stuff that nobody talks about.
Not on the internet, not on television, not on radio.
Nobody.
Not Art Bell. Not Richard Hoagland. Not David Icke.
Nobody.
It is in your face every day and major powerful and yet nobody dares to mention it.
People can and do keep secrets that empower them and enslave all others.
Originally posted by Exuberant1
Those images might not even be from the LRO - but instead could be from the Defense Intelligence Agency and their Apollo Simulation Program also known as 'ASP':
ASP is an acronym for "Apollo Simulation Project", which was created in 1961 and operated by the DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) to "help" NASA with their technical problems by establishing a totally simulated moon mission.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Please edit your post to show a link to the external source you quoted if possible, thanks.
Where did I say there was no proof or that I believed we have never been to the moon?
Greetings Kandinksy, You can't even prove conclusively that the Apollo missions landed on the moon. There are no photos of the Apollo vehicles from orbit to prove they are on the moon, nor are there any pictures taken from ground-based telescopes which show the Apollo vehicles....
Originally posted by Kandinsky
Not to be pernickety, but you implied as much in this thread yesterday...
Originally posted by Kandinsky
Your OP implies that the Apollo 11 never left Low Earth Orbit
Originally posted by Exuberant1
Originally posted by Kandinsky
Your OP implies that the Apollo 11 never left Low Earth Orbit
Where do I state that I believe this was the case?
The OP is based on the research done by other Apollo researchers.
(See the the video in the OP.)
You could check all of ATS and wouldn't find any posts where I state that I believe that we did not go to the moon.
You are reaching Kandisky.
[edit on 18-7-2009 by Exuberant1]
Originally posted by dragonridr
So if you didn't say we didn't go to the moon then why put up a thread that said we didn't go to the moon.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Exuberant1
You asked the question and I answered it. Your OP implies that the Apollo 11 never left Low Earth Orbit...by extension, they mustn't have landed on the Moon.
Originally posted by Pathos
Look at the thread's title. Since it wasn't in question form, the title is more of a statement.
Originally posted by Exuberant1
The 'thread' says no such thing...
In fact, the title of the thread is a question: "[Revealed] Apollo Hoax Betrayed by UFO Reports?"
Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by Overload
Thanks Overload
Check this out - these are images of Neil and Buzz on the Moon.
Look at their shadows and how their lengths vary depending on how close they are to the spotlight:
Shadows are the same length in the one:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f786340634cc.jpg[/atsimg]
Now look at the difference as the astronaut nears the light source... this doesn't happen with sunlight and on level terrain like this:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/82934bd9b7ff.jpg[/atsimg]
[edit on 17-7-2009 by Exuberant1]