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Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
So "every American" at this time in history was a bigot and a rascist!!?
Are you sure about that?
Are you sure this is what you're saying because I can see an awful lot of posts from Americans telling you you're wrong. ..
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
look at his life story
and some of the things he is alleged to have said.
It seems one thing we can all agree on and that is that Pike was an out and out rascist.
And you can't dress it up as everyone at that time was also rascist because thats just to tar everyone with the same brush and thats not right.
Masons aren't the Illuminati but they may well be supplying the shadowy elite with likely candidates, big businessmen, bankers, etc.
That we can debate until the cows come home and I dont suppose we'll ever agree. Masons aren't shape shifting lizards! Thats just ridiculous.
I dont even think all masons are bad or evil although I sometimes doubt whether a society with secrets would tell everyone every secret it has in its arsenal.
But what I do know, and I think it's a thorn in the side of freemasonry, is that Albert Pike shared the rascist views of the KKK.
I think he knew darn well he was writing to a very few members of the Masonic fraternity and no one else.
I think he knew darn well that everyone would jump to the wrong conclusions when he mentioned Lucifer, and he delighted in it.
He seems to have been a narcistic big head who was drawn to the masons because it offered him a suitable platform to show just how smart he was.
When freemasons support and protect Pikes name they are, in effect, forgiving him for being a bigot.
Unfortunately I'm not that forgiving.
And as for dishing up even more dirt on the masons as someone above mentioned a few posts back. I hardly think its worth the effort. The fact that you hold the memory of this dispicable man (Pike) so close to your hearts speaks volumes about freemasonry.
Originally posted by Roark
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
So "every American" at this time in history was a bigot and a rascist!!?
Are you sure about that?
Are you sure this is what you're saying because I can see an awful lot of posts from Americans telling you you're wrong. ..
I didn't say that at all. Be very careful about putting words in my mouth, mate.
Racism as defined by modern standards (and indeed it is a fairly recent concept) was certainly commonplace in Pike's time, though. That was all I was trying to point out, along with the fact that it isn't very clever or relevant to apply anacronystic popular standards to ANY period in history.
Originally posted by senrak
U2U me your mailing address and I will personally buy those two books and mail them to you. Seriously. Thats how passionate I am on this subject.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by senrak
U2U me your mailing address and I will personally buy those two books and mail them to you. Seriously. Thats how passionate I am on this subject.
I never read those books either, can I get mine in hardcover?
Also, I do not know much about yellow Corvette's, can you mail me one as well?
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Be very careful of putting words in your mouth! Why? Will you contact your masonic friends in the police to pull over my car and do me for driving in a manner that upsets masons!!
Grow up you silly little man. And do me a huge favour, stop calling me mate.
As for freemasonry? I now believe it's a society which delights in the mysticism and secrecy that surrounds it.
After years of having the upper eschelons of the law, politics and big business within it's ranks it now finds itself struggling to come to terms with modern times. It simply cannot let go of those elitist feelings which it so enjoyed in the past.
I'm not saying you're all evil! Far from it.
Some of the masons I've spoken with here on ATS seem to be very likable and sincere people but for gods sake stop trying to protect and uphold the memory of Albert Pike. He was a disgusting vile human being whose racist views should be condemned by all, including masons!
The very fact that you go to such lengths to condone this man hurts your beloved brotherhood.
When I first mentioned this I thought there would be a rush of masons keen to distance themselves from the views of this bigot. Instead you circled the wagons and attempted to protect him. Very sad. . .
Originally posted by senrak
LOL!
Canary yellow? or mustard yellow?
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Name calling is not necessary. Plus, I think he calls you mate because he is from Australia. Apparently that is how they address one another there prior to inviting you to place a crustacean on the grill and drinking a ridiculously large malted beverage.
Originally posted by network dude
I picked up a couple of fosters the other day to have a change in the order so to speak...
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by network dude
I picked up a couple of fosters the other day to have a change in the order so to speak...
Hmmm, of which Order do you speak? I felt like I kNew but then I realized I have no idea what in the World you are talking about.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Hmmm, of which Order do you speak? I felt like I kNew but then I realized I have no idea what in the World you are talking about.