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Originally posted by mikerussellus
It's going to be the poor, the minorities, basically everyone that voted for Obama that are going to be hurt by this.
Originally posted by jerico65
Originally posted by mikerussellus
It's going to be the poor, the minorities, basically everyone that voted for Obama that are going to be hurt by this.
Actually, lower income families will be able to get money from the Gov to help with the coming higher energy costs. The people who will get screwed will be the ever-shrinking middle class.
But you're right, "Main Street", my ass!!
Originally posted by Etsivä Romppainen
reply to post by longstalker
Hmm? Climate change is real and something has to be done. I applaud to the new law restricting American greenhouse gas emissions. This is very good. Now you can join the civilized world again. Now we can save the Earth together.
To me the idea that this will result in increase of taxes is insane. What about your children and grandchildren? You want them to live in a world of ecological disaster? Complaining about taxes in a case like this is so insanely selfish and short-sighted I wonder how you manage to live withyourself.
Actually the NWO is a good idea, if USA is full of selfish people who don't care about the world. Then you will submit. I, for one, now welcome our NWO overlords. I noticed that the Americans are so selfish people I want the NWO to control you.
I gotta apply for a job as a some kind of a foreign NWO controller in USA. I will make you pay your carbon emission taxes.
Originally posted by ShiftTrio
Has anyone here read the bill and broken it down to actual facts.. Just wondering I would like to see the real numbers. There is a lot of bias on these boards when it comes to politics and tends to cloud the actual facts sometimes. I don't like any politician, and I don't choose sides. I am after the truth plain and simple.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
You have no clue, do ya'?? I suggest you educate yourself on just how charitable the American people are verses others around the world.
USA Today - Americans give record amount to charity
A Nation of Givers
Americans gave, per capita, three and a half times as much to causes and charities as the French, seven times as much as the Germans, and 14 times as much as the Italians. Similarly, in 1998, Americans were 15 percent more likely to volunteer their time than the Dutch, 21 percent more likely than the Swiss, and 32 percent more likely than the Germans. These differences are not attributable to demographic characteristics such as education, income, age, sex, or marital status. On the contrary, if we look at two people who are identical in all these ways except that one is European and the other American, the probability is still far lower that the European will volunteer than the American
And that's just from our own pockets. Our tax money is given out in charity from Washington in the form of foreign aid and grants - such as the tens of billions that is being spent on AIDS research in Africa - and the hundreds of millions that went to the tsunami survivors, etc
US Aid - Foreign Aid
US Foreign Aid Summary
You cannot contribute to the UN
Unfortunately the USA pays something like 1/4 of the UNs bills and we house it in our country. That UN is a cesspool of corruption and is a useless financial black hole.
An Index of Donor Performance - Working Paper 67 (Revised November 2006)
Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden score highest while the largest donors in absolute terms, the United States and Japan, rank at or near the bottom. Standings by the 2005 methodology have been relatively stable since 1995.
." The charitable giving measure is based on an estimate of the share of observed private giving to developing countries that is attributable to a) lower overall taxes or b) specific tax incentives for giving. Despite the adjustments, overall results are dominated by differences in quantity of official aid given. This is because while there is a seven-fold range in net concessional transfers/GDP among the scored countries, variation in overall aid quality across donors appears far lower, and private giving is generally small.
Think Again: U.S. Foreign Aid
“The U.S. Government Provides More Foreign Aid than Any Other Country.”
Yes. The United States gives more cash to developing countries than any other nation. Of the $69 billion in development assistance given by the world’s 22 top donors in 2003, the U.S. government contributed $16.3 billion, or just under 25 percent. But these sums mainly reflect that the United States is the largest and wealthiest donor country, accounting for 40 percent of the 22 donor countries’ total income. So, it should come as no surprise that the United States gives substantially more than, say Canada, which has one tenth the population and a much lower average income.
When U.S. foreign aid is measured on other scales, however, a different picture emerges. For example, the United States provided about $51 per citizen in official development assistance in 2002–03. That ranks it in 16th place among other major donors, behind Norway ($381 per citizen), the Netherlands ($203 per citizen), France ($96 per citizen), and the United Kingdom ($89 per citizen), among others. When aid is measured as a share of national income, the United States ranks dead last at 0.15 percent. Top givers include Norway (0.92), Denmark (0.84), Belgium (0.60), and Germany (0.28).
Moreover, foreign aid constitutes only a small share of the U.S. federal budget—much smaller than most Americans think. Surveys show that most Americans believe the federal government devotes 15 to 20 percent of the country’s expenditures to aid. The actual figure is far less than 1 percent; that’s less than one fourth of the budget share of 1965.
“Is America the Most Generous Country in the World if You Include Private Donations to Charities.”
No.
Americans certainly rise to the occasion in times of crisis, as the outpouring of charitable giving to tsunami victims demonstrated. According to U.S. government figures, private donations to low-income countries through American churches, charities, foundations, nongovernmental organizations, and college scholarships was at least $6.3 billion in 2003. And such data almost certainly understate the actual amount of private aid. Some organizations do not respond to the government survey used to collect the data, and some important forms of contribution are omitted, such as volunteer time. Alternative estimates vary, with the upper-end figure (including gifts to more developed countries such as Israel and Russia) at $17.1 billion for 2000. By this estimation, private charitable donations per American total $58 per year
Conservatives exaggerated foreign aid to declare U.S. "most generous nation in the history of the world"
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by longstalker
More BS to be enforced upon us while the rest of the world laugh at Global warming.
Originally posted by zorkthegreat
Originally posted by jkm1864
Originally posted by zorkthegreat
Its so terrible to contribute to society isn't it. This thread will be mostly rants of American's wanting to be greedy and selfish again and not contribute. Their right to have a car and pollute but not be accountable is in their DNA it seems.
[edit on 27-6-2009 by zorkthegreat]
Hey I have had enough of me contributing to society. I have just spent 2 months offshore and I have one month to go. In these 3 months I have just contributed $11100.00 to society in taxes. So # off # head I don't need anymore taxes. I hate You #ing dems and I can't wait for You know what because justice will be served. You people act like We are so selfish but yet You pieces of # do nothing to contribute to society except for consuming my wages and tearing up our roads.
Really, I pay 50% of my wages on TAX contributing and 25% on sales tax.
I also get off my fat arse and help people. What do you do again?
American's come over here and unfortunately our country gives them a tax break and they pay 25% just, WTF, I do more work and give more and contribute double that then you leave and take everything back and still want our healthcare and we give it then when you don't get your way you manipulate and threaten us to get your way. Some people here even pay 80% of their wages in tax to contribute. Yet all you do is dictate to us. I FOR ONE WELCOME NORTH KOREA AND IRAN TAKING ON AMERICA. Why? because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. (Snip)
You are a bunch of ungrateful yanks.
[edit on 27-6-2009 by zorkthegreat]
[edit on 27-6-2009 by asala]
Originally posted by hangedman13
Come on people global warming is a farce! I've noticed everything in this country boils down to a guilt complex. Oh people are so bad! All of that bad carbon that we have put into the atmosphere. Buy a off-set! Get real and grow a pair! There is nothing wrong with minimizing your impact on the world. But the obvious self interest of policy makers and the guilt complex of the people has created quite a industry catering to alleviating the populace's feelings. Production in this country is minimal these days. We shackle our industrial strength, while developing countries are allowed to do it the "old" way. Is that not a double standard? The pollution we have today gave us all the LUXURIES we have today. More regulations leading to ways to force the public to do what is "right".