You know, I read this thread and I can't help but think to myself that this is a sad day to be a human being. This bill will push forward the development of new technologies and new methods to produce energy. This bill will help propel humans towards a cleaner and more productive technological future. How can that be bad?

As I am reading through this thread it becomes apparent that most of the people who are against this bill are simply worried about money. The shortsightedness of this is amazing to me. If we do not do something towards moving off of fossil fuel dependency, fuel costs are going to rise eventually anyway. Simple supply and demand tells us that as the oil and fossil fuels run out, and they will eventually run out, that the prices of such commodities are going to go up.

So I ask you, would you rather pay now while still being able to afford electricity, albeit a little more expensive? Or should we simply wait for the day where heating oil and other forms of fossil fuels are so expensive that we cannot afford to pay for any of it.

Sure you can think to yourself, "Well fossil fuel is not going to run out while I am alive, so who cares!" It is this exact line of thinking that makes me think of this as a sad day for humans, both present and future.

This bill will directly bring about future technological advances in the energy arena.

This bill is what is needed in order to propel such technological advancement. This bill is what is needed in order to start to loosen the grip on fossil fuels.

Forgive me for not worrying about myself and my money, I am worried about my kids, and their kids. Sometimes its not about yourself. Once all people realize this fact, the world as a whole will be a better place for all of us.

You may now commence flaming me for being an "open minded fool" who considers the bigger picture rather than just the here and now.

xmad

Originally posted by xmaddness

You may now commence flaming me for being an "open minded fool" who considers the bigger picture rather than just the here and now.

xmad

Actually I think your main problem is that your are only seeing the picture as it is shown, no real insight in your post, sounds good on paper and is a goal we as humans eventually want to obtain but this oppressive slave tax is a detriment to humanity, and you sir can't see the "bigger" picture.

Necessity is the mother of invention. If one day, the whole world is forced to face a shortage of fossil fuel, then and only then will you see change.

I have children. I am not worried about fossil fuel for them. I am more worried about providing them with food, shelter, clothing, and a chance of higher education. Something that will be much more difficult to do if this bill becomes law.

The bottom line is that we have no effect on Climate Change. So don't put lipstick on this pig and expect me to kiss it.

well.....at least we got non-stop micheal jackson tributes to quell our anger.. wait "don't stop till you get enough" is playing.. and earlier it was "I'm bad, I'm Bad"... the illumaniti is sending us messages!!!

I seen someone on the street...laying down, twitching, looked like he was going to die.
I thought first off...he is probably sleeping. I dont believe he is hurt.

after awhile of looking at him, I did see in fact he was bleeding, twitching more, eyes rolling back.
I thought...well, its not my fault...I didnt do it.

Then I considered giving CPR...I mean, chances are, no matter what I do, I wont be able to save it...and if I did it, I would lose time, energy, and potentially stain my pants.

now, if I do nothing, the person will for sure die...however, if I tried like hell to help the person, he may live...or may die...but at least I will know that even though the person dies, I tried my hardest to stop the person from dying.. I might have lost time, energy, and a money trying to help, and if it didnt work, at the very least, I could look at myself in the mirror.

or I could simply let him die in a apathetic way, saving my clothes from staining and having to spend money to get it clean...

decisions decisions.
(is this really a decision btw? seems like a no brainer...no wonder you guys lost. lol)

the party of morals my arse.

I wrote a song. To the tune of Twinkle Twinkle.

"When the taxes are increased, everyone wants to not pay.
Even though it saves the world
And supports better things than beforeee...
When the taxes are increased, even for a good reason."

Sorry, I'm no composer. Also can be sang to the tune of the Alphabet.

Edit- Polluting is bad. CO2 needs to be processed by trees to create Oxygen.
You stop cutting down the rainforest and replant what you all cut down.
Then you can go on throwing more of our greedy waste back into the air.

[edit on 6/27/2009 by ravenshadow13]

Originally posted by jprophet420
if you think that sitting on the internet bitching about policy that the people control makes me a sheep it is you who require the shearing good sir.

How exactly do the "people" control the policy and laws being implemented by the current administration?....

President Obama made promises, MOST OF WHICH HE DID NOT KEEP, and yet you want to claim the people control policy, and the laws being implemented?

Originally posted by zorkthegreat
Its so terrible to contribute to society isn't it. This thread will be mostly rants of American's wanting to be greedy and selfish again and not contribute. Their right to have a car and pollute but not be accountable is in their DNA it seems.

[edit on 27-6-2009 by zorkthegreat]

Zork, use your head. The mere acts of breathing and eating are selfish. In the interest of being selfless, I respectfully request that you stop breathing the same air that the animals need to survive.

Really, this is all about there YOU choose to draw the line. I say we all need to commit mass suicide to save the planet .. who's in??