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reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 11:28 AM by eldard
reply to post by aravoth



lol Another dumb American arrogance.

Satellite = Russia
Radio = Europe
heart transplant = South Africa
blender = disputed
tractors = England
traffic lights = England
Radio Astronomy = Scotland
Chemotherapy = India/WWI
Defibrillator = Switzerland
integrated circuit = Britain
birth control = lol WTF? Nazi Germany
Lung Transplant surgery = Russia
led = Russia
lcd = Austria/Germany/France
compact disk = Japan/Netherlands actually Sony and Philips
automobile = Mercedes-Benz
motorcycle = Mercedes-Benz



Sorry, dude. YOu're not that important. No one will miss you when your country dies.







reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 11:31 AM by unknown known
reply to post by mikerussellus



Interesting stuff, probably true buuuut

Howd you kill the thread? Its about the Climate Change Energy Bill. Not about if Obama or Pelosi or anyone reeeeallly wants to help our environment. We know they dont give a fu** about us.



reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 11:49 AM by Foppezao
Originally posted by Etsivä Romppainen
reply to
post by longstalker



Hmm? Climate change is real and something has to be done. I applaud to the new law restricting American greenhouse gas emissions. This is very good. Now you can join the civilized world again. Now we can save the Earth together.

To me the idea that this will result in increase of taxes is insane. What about your children and grandchildren? You want them to live in a world of ecological disaster? Complaining about taxes in a case like this is so insanely selfish and short-sighted I wonder how you manage to live withyourself.

Actually the NWO is a good idea, if USA is full of selfish people who don't care about the world. Then you will submit. I, for one, now welcome our NWO overlords. I noticed that the Americans are so selfish people I want the NWO to control you.

I gotta apply for a job as a some kind of a foreign NWO controller in USA. I will make you pay your carbon emission taxes.


finally some one who can enlighten this thread...
I find it amazing how Americans can whine about taxes and a new health care system..It doesnt have to be socialistic but it can be a little more of solidarity..ever heard of that word?
Lots of you should be ashamed! how years after Katrina people were still homeless without nothing, no home, no care, nothing!! in New Orleans in your backyard!!, but god nooo!! no more taxes, that will kill me!!
Maybe you should turn that hillbilly redneck from Austin "AJ" off and think beyond your state or union borders about the environment and the future of your children..


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 12:16 PM by ludaChris
Originally posted by Foppezao
finally some one who can enlighten this thread...
I find it amazing how Americans can whine about taxes and a new health care system..It doesnt have to be socialistic but it can be a little more of solidarity..ever heard of that word?
Lots of you should be ashamed! how years after Katrina people were still homeless without nothing, no home, no care, nothing!! in New Orleans in your backyard!!, but god nooo!! no more taxes, that will kill me!!
Maybe you should turn that hillbilly redneck from Austin "AJ" off and think beyond your state or union borders about the environment and the future of your children..


Some of you just don't understand that American political culture didn't originally have big government and high taxes involved in any way shape or form. Why are you calling us whiners, what would you have us do, start firebombing buildings and shooting politicians? You just don't understand that because our constitution and the values it represents on limited government that is making a resurgence, we don't want any part of those things we are apparently whining about. It you don't want it, you need to be vocal about it. Would you want the US government in control of your healthcare? Maybe they do it well in the Netherlands, but everything this gov. touches, they destroy or severely # up.

On a side note; I like the idea that in this country we should focus on the happenings inside our own border. We've been overly concerned with the outside world for over 50 years and it clearly isn't working our socially, economically, or politically. I think it's time we start focusing more of our thoughts inside our own border and clean our own house. I enjoy our sovereignty as well, that is something that will never be given up so easily.



[edit on 6/28/2009 by ludaChris]


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 12:42 PM by Foppezao
Originally posted by ludaChris
Originally posted by Foppezao
finally some one who can enlighten this thread...
I find it amazing how Americans can whine about taxes and a new health care system..It doesnt have to be socialistic but it can be a little more of solidarity..ever heard of that word?
Lots of you should be ashamed! how years after Katrina people were still homeless without nothing, no home, no care, nothing!! in New Orleans in your backyard!!, but god nooo!! no more taxes, that will kill me!!
Maybe you should turn that hillbilly redneck from Austin "AJ" off and think beyond your state or union borders about the environment and the future of your children..


Some of you just don't understand that American political culture didn't originally have big government and high taxes involved in any way shape or form. Why are you calling us whiners, what would you have us do, start firebombing buildings and shooting politicians? You just don't understand that because our constitution and the values it represents on limited government that is making a resurgence, we don't want any part of those things we are apparently whining about. It you don't want it, you need to be vocal about it. Would you want the US government in control of your healthcare? Maybe they do it well in the Netherlands, but everything this gov. touches, they destroy or severely # up.

On a side note; I like the idea that in this country we should focus on the happenings inside our own border. We've been overly concerned with the outside world for over 50 years and it clearly isn't working our socially, economically, or politically. I think it's time we start focusing more of our thoughts inside our own border and clean our own house. I enjoy our sovereignty as well, that is something that will never be given up so easily.



[edit on 6/28/2009 by ludaChris]


Well i am pretty rightwing, people would call me liberal which is a left thingie in the US but more a rightwing thing here, but i am not for more government control..less is more..
But some things such as Health care, and some minimum of social security should be coordinated by the public sector, not private...I've also red an article about the the Corrections Corporation of America [CCA] and private prisons in the US, it was actually hilarious reading that,how they played with peoples lives at the same time making the most profit..
I believe most Americans wanted a different health care system, in a rich country nobody should die because they cant afford premiums or operations. .period.
And yes you've been concerned with the world for over 50 yeas, we're still good allies but you've also been by a massive margin the world's biggest polluter and very disproportionately so..Every country should take their responsibility and Bush ran away from it..
The greenhouse effect is real but not the only variable for climate change, but still we shouldnt run away from it..

www.vexen.co.uk...

Oh and if something like Katrina would happen in my country, which did in 1953, everybody from all corners of the country would take on their boots and start helping right away, trying to save lives...solidarity..




[edit on 28-6-2009 by Foppezao]



reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 12:45 PM by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by eldard
reply to
post by aravoth



lol Another dumb American arrogance.

Satellite = Russia
Radio = Europe
heart transplant = South Africa
blender = disputed
tractors = England
traffic lights = England
Radio Astronomy = Scotland
Chemotherapy = India/WWI
Defibrillator = Switzerland
integrated circuit = Britain
birth control = lol WTF? Nazi Germany
Lung Transplant surgery = Russia
led = Russia
lcd = Austria/Germany/France
compact disk = Japan/Netherlands actually Sony and Philips
automobile = Mercedes-Benz
motorcycle = Mercedes-Benz



Sorry, dude. YOu're not that important. No one will miss you when your country dies.






wanna bet?


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 01:18 PM by mikerussellus
Originally posted by unknown known
reply to
post by mikerussellus



Interesting stuff, probably true buuuut

Howd you kill the thread? Its about the Climate Change Energy Bill. Not about if Obama or Pelosi or anyone reeeeallly wants to help our environment. We know they dont give a fu** about us.


The bill is based on nothing but LIES. And who is doing the lying but the weenies in DC. They are using these lies to gain more control, tax us more.
As for the truth of the matter, I could 'debate' gravity with you but the 'truth' is that neither one of us is floating towards space. You can debate this all you want but the truth still holds.

[edit on 28-6-2009 by mikerussellus]


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 02:58 PM by Ex_MislTech
Originally posted by warrenb
reply to
post by longstalker


where is the resistance? or is this meant to be a lone wolf thing?


Well some ppl would say it is with alex jones ppl, but I think they
will just be the first victims of HR 645.

If you get too organized, you will be going on a list, just like
it happened in Germany.

Naomi Wolf covers it very well, and the thing that has really amazed
the liberals including her is it is continuing under Obama.

The end of America

Good Luck to you all !

[edit on 28-6-2009 by Ex_MislTech]
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