Also don't plants expel Co2 at night, at least some of them? This could effect Farmers and our food prices even more. Just another worrisome thought.

Originally posted by Pappa_Bear
Also don't plants expel Co2 at night, at least some of them? This could effect Farmers and our food prices even more. Just another worrisome thought.

Screw the plants, what about people? We expel CO2 every time we breath. Give them time, they'll be figuring out some sort of "personal CO2 tax" for the individual.

Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by Pappa_Bear
Also don't plants expel Co2 at night, at least some of them? This could effect Farmers and our food prices even more. Just another worrisome thought.

Screw the plants, what about people? We expel CO2 every time we breath. Give them time, they'll be figuring out some sort of "personal CO2 tax" for the individual.

Heres another shocker they don't tell you did you know oxygen is a stronger green house gas than co2. Co2 tends to to settle to the lowest points while oxygen being lighter will rise that is why they used to use canaries in mines. So i guess after we try to eliminate co2 we can hit oxygen next by cutting down all the trees that would have to help lower global temperature right!

Yeah, you can all forget about the US Senate....they are far more corrupt than the house. The house was the only real hope of it not passing.

Thanks MICHAEL JACKSON!! Convenient isn't it. This story gets huge news and takes away from the real story that everyone should be talking about.

People are freakin idiots.

I can't believe they passed this when people are already struggling..and all for some BS that isn't even proven.

[edit on 27-6-2009 by David9176]

[edit on 27-6-2009 by David9176]

Though I tend to shy away from most of the threads here, I cannot help but raise my voice along with the collective. As much as I despised Bush, I hold a lesser opinion of Obama; tell ya, more people should have voted for Nader...

With everything that he has done or proposed, my god, it's amazing how blind the Obama followers are / can be. I, just like many of you here, have taken steps to be prepared in case , oh, how to put this... in case things take a turn for the worse. I've warned my family and my friends, giving hard evidence to support my claims, and because of that I am now considered more on the "fringe" than before (for those who have read my posts, come on, how am I on the fringe?)

But now! You would swear that this would make at least a few of the Obama supports stand up! My wife, I love her dearly... she isn't as politically outspoken as I am (in real life), and she honestly believes that Obama may of had good intentions, and also believes that he is trying but is being constantly stone-walled by, well... by people and media groups like us. Not her words, mind you, I just summed it up. Initially, I once thought that yeah, maybe Obama was working for change, especially with the way he was so against Bush and his policies back when Obama was just a candidate.

I won't go into what changed my mind, as I am drifting further off subject as it is...

GAAAH! Can't even think straight along this subject!

Hey, here's a good one... the whole entire thing about all bills and what-have-you being posted on the internet for, what, a week? before being voted on... is that pretty much thrown out the window? If the House of Reps were taken by the 3:09am book of 300+ amendums I would assume that that Obama promise is null and void.

Egads, I can't even think of anything sarcastic or meaningless to say!

EDIT HERE:

I figured out what I was going to say... any one know were I can get the Don't Tread On Me flag for a good price? I plan on flying that in my front yard to make the job easier for Obama supports.

[edit on 2009/6/26 by The Soothsayer]

Originally posted by dragonridr
Heres another shocker they don't tell you did you know oxygen is a stronger green house gas than co2. Co2 tends to to settle to the lowest points while oxygen being lighter will rise that is why they used to use canaries in mines. So i guess after we try to eliminate co2 we can hit oxygen next by cutting down all the trees that would have to help lower global temperature right!

Oxygen is not a GHG. Water vapour is however, and water vapour contributes to 95-98% of the greenhouse effect on the TRoposphere, which is where most weather events occur, and it is the atmospherica layer which affects furcafe temperatures.

CO2 was never the problem. In fact CO2 is beneficial for the green biomass of Earth, which in turn is beneficial to the animal kingdom.

During periods of warming mankind, and nature itself thrives, meanwhile during cold periods everyone suffers, and by the way the Sun is acting we will soon encounter another LIA as soon as the extra heat stored in our oceans dissipates into the atmosphere.

Why, oh dear god why, are hardworking ordinary, good people under the feet of these tyrant's? Not just the working people, but those who have nothing and suffer everyday.
How damn much are we supposed to take?
I don't mean just the financial stuff.
The human species is ripping itself apart at the seams, and the USA seems to want to do little else more than encourage it.
I thought that the USA had values and principals, that were at one point worth fighting for. Who would want to follow our example.
We watch as the entire countries fall into the abysmal depths of crushing defeat, and we still sit home and allow it to happen. Every move the USA makes is watched closely by the international community. Some example we are setting.
If freedom is ever brought to the other ailing countries, is financial slavery what they have to look forward to. No wonder they fight and we think it's just out of ignorance.
We are the ignorant ones. We sit on our asses and let things like this happen. We have lost what it is that once made us unique.
Our freedom.
So what now?
I am tired of thinking about this crap. I think I will go throw up now.


[edit on 26/6/2009 by reticledc]

Originally posted by jerico65
Screw the plants, what about people? We expel CO2 every time we breath. Give them time, they'll be figuring out some sort of "personal CO2 tax" for the individual.

Three years back or so I was making a joke in these same boards about how the Global Warming crowd would try to put a tax on pets, and animals, and soon enough we would have to install a CO2 sensor on their behinds.

Well, that is now not a joke anymore as the Obama administration wants to put a tax on CO2 emitted by pets, and farm animals....



[edit on 26-6-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

Out of all the people that rape us over day in and day out.. Pelosi is by far the most aggravating. Every time I see her, my teeth clench like the lion at the zoo as little children are taunting it from behind protective glass. That woman is just no good for anybody but herself and the corporations she's protecting/enabling.

Originally posted by dragonridr

Heres another shocker they don't tell you did you know oxygen is a stronger green house gas than co2. Co2 tends to to settle to the lowest points while oxygen being lighter will rise that is why they used to use canaries in mines. So i guess after we try to eliminate co2 we can hit oxygen next by cutting down all the trees that would have to help lower global temperature right!

No, that is wrong. I am an organic chemist. O2 is not a greenhouse gas. It is physically impossible for any homo-nuclear diatomic molecule to be IR active! Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.

Sorry mods for the off topic post but I simply cannot allow someone to go wrong on chemistry.

Originally posted by The Soothsayer

I figured out what I was going to say... any one know were I can get the Don't Tread On Me flag for a good price? I plan on flying that in my front yard to make the job easier for Obama supports.

[edit on 2009/6/26 by The Soothsayer]

I am going shopping for one in the a.m.

If anybody knows a good place to order please stand up.

I would really like it cheap, but it has to be "Made in America" or I don't want it.

Originally posted by LiquidMirage

Originally posted by dragonridr

Heres another shocker they don't tell you did you know oxygen is a stronger green house gas than co2. Co2 tends to to settle to the lowest points while oxygen being lighter will rise that is why they used to use canaries in mines. So i guess after we try to eliminate co2 we can hit oxygen next by cutting down all the trees that would have to help lower global temperature right!

No, that is wrong. I am an organic chemist. O2 is not a greenhouse gas. It is physically impossible for any homo-nuclear diatomic molecule to be IR active! Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.

Sorry mods for the off topic post but I simply cannot allow someone to go wrong on chemistry.

Ok technically your right but i didnt go into this fully oxygen creates a green house effect by allowing more of suns energy to reach the earth thus causing evaporation to increase thus causing more cloud cover it was from a nasa study on trying to create this effect on mars. Back to topic.