Pedophile says 'two strikes' law will cause deaths, page 3
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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:52 AM by andy1033
reply to post by tezzajw



That truly is disgusting, but the person does have a point.

Can anyone tell us why it is against the rules to castrate these people, i assume most are males. Is sexual energy that important to people that everyone needs it to live proper lifes.



reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 09:59 AM by Harlequin
reply to post by ItsallCrazy



you ok with beating a female pedo then? since they are more and more common now.

like the one who sold tickets to watch her abusing a baby.

www.independent.co.uk...

[edit on 17/6/09 by Harlequin]


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 02:03 PM by Shadowflux
What we have these days is an interesting problem, I'm going to try to explain my position without sounding like I'm on either "side".

Our modern society is so sexually charged it's a wonder there isn't more rape. Everywhere you turn almost everything is related, in some way, to sex. The problem for someone with a sexual addiction such as Pedophilia is that it can be near impossible for them to "get over it" when they receive a bombardment of constant reminders every waking day.

When one is trying to quite smoking it's best to not be around people who smoke. When you're trying to lose weight it's best to ignore the McDonald's ads for Big Macs and Shakes.

Our American Judicial system, I feel, is one of the best there has ever been. However, the Penal systems and the current concept of "reform" needs a lot of work. It matters little what crime you are in prison for, the commonly accepted rule is that you will come out a better criminal with more connections than when you went in.

Now, that isn't discounting the fact that prison for a pedophile has to be hell on Earth as even hardened murders have it out for pedophiles,

I do agree that the concept of a two strike system for these types of crimes will lead to increased violence and desperation on the part of the perpetrator. We've already seen this happen with the Three Strike drug policy. When someone can end up in prison for life simply because it's their third time caught with a bag of dope they are very likely to run from the police and commit more crimes than if they had a reasonable sentence.

So, what should we do then? It's a hard question to ask but I believe that pedophilia needs to be better researched. The old concept of a drooling, heavy breathing "sex maniac" is antiquated and ignorant. Just look at the news, if we are to use the generally accepted term of "Pedophile" then we are seeing an increased number of FEMALE pedophiles who seem to be getting less severe treatment than their male counterparts.

There are other destructive sexual compulsions, such as serial murder, that are studied with great intent and interest, I really see no reason why Pedophilia should not receive the same attention.

However, I also believe that a free and civil nation like America should be free of Summary Judgments, Lynch Mobs, Disproportionate Punishment, Forced Sterilization, Government Endorsed Ostracization and anything of the like for any crime due to the rule Precedent in our court system. If it's been done before to someone else, it's acceptable to request that it is done to you.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 02:06 PM by Wachstum
reply to post by noonebutme



Yes, there were a wole lot of emotions in my post and only a tiny bit of thinking.

Nevertheless, what this guy wrote is inacceptable, IMHO. It just crosses the line: He asked "what is wrong to have sex with a 12 year old" and described erection problems, of someone who [SNIP] multiple times a child

WTF? That's not tolerable and i'd risk to insult an innocent (only with words) in this case

edit: applause to site owner


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Removed censor circumvention

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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 03:20 PM by Harlequin
reply to post by SkepticOverlord



and

reply to post by muzzleflash



since my reply to both is the same:

each state in the USA has a different age of consent; some as high as 18 , whilst at least 2 are as low as 14 (iowa and indiana) or even 13 (Pennsylvania and New Jersey)


other countries around the world also have wide ranging age of consent , so whilst you both feel its wrong , take a good hard look at the USA before you are quick to judge;

the average age of consent around the world though is 16.

[edit on 17/6/09 by Harlequin]


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 03:25 PM by warrenb
reply to post by tezzajw



pedophiles need to be fed whole and alive to great white sharks

my 2c




reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 03:58 PM by MSLGWCEO
I have to agree with the pedophile. Most sex offender laws as they are written today, do "More Harm than Good."

A two strikes would surely endanger children. After all, a witness that can't talk is not much of a witness.

I could write for hours on this topic alone, but I won't.

There are three categories to watch out for.

1. Those who DID NOT know their victim.

2. The VIOLENT offender.

3. The REPEAT offender.

95% of all first time sex offenders NEVER repeat another sex crime.

Children are at more risk at home than by a registered offender because 98% of all new sexual offenses are committed by people who are NOT on the registry, they are committed by family;y members and by those known to the family.

From our U.S.Department of Justice.
www.ojp.usdoj.gov...

Highlights include the following:

* Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%),
burglars (74.0%),
larcenists (74.6%),
motor vehicle thieves (78.8%),
those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).

* Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape,

and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide.

A good place to start is here. Forget the entertainment news media and politicians, who for ratings and votes will tell uou whatever you want to hear.

Study’s
cfcoklahoma.org...

If the link doesn’t work, simply copy and paste into your browser

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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 04:02 PM by Kailassa
Originally posted by Techsnow
I personally don't think that there is anything wrong with sex as long as its between willing, even if the willing is 12 yrs old . As we know in many nations 12 is the age of consent.


Originally posted by Techsnow
What's so wrong wth sex with a 12 yr old?
If the father agrees and its legal in the society then is there a problem with it?


1. Children of that age are not mentally or emotionally equipped to make a decision that can involve bringing another human being into the world.

2. Children of that age are not mentally or emotionally equipped to resist the pressure of adults who want to use their bodies.

3. Childbirth is much more dangerous to a very young teenager.

4. Children of this age are not financially in a position to bring up a child.
(Yes, we know about birth control. All birth control methods have a failure rate.)



Why do you suggest the father should have any say in the matter other than teaching his daughter morals? Do you hate mothers, to suggest they should have no say in this? Or do you belong to a religious group which teaches men should be boss?

I know of a father locally who, from the time his daughter turned 12, has been trying to talk her into prostituting herself for him, making her believe he is in dire financial straights and that this is necessary to save his life.
He's trained her for this by getting her drunk when his friends visit and letting them at her.
This girl adores her father and keeps making excuses for him, even running away from home continually to be with him. (Of course her addiction to the alcohol he's provided, complete lack of rules there, and contempt he's taught her toward her mother don't help.)

The fact is a 12 year old doesn't know what she is getting into, and can't see through a deceitful adult's lies. She has no idea how this can affect the rest of her life.

No decent person would want a monster like this guy in their house, much less want to make such bastardy legal.



I wonder if his posts would sound dissimilar to yours if he posted here?
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