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reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 11:54 AM by mpriebe81
reply to post by HunkaHunka



Thanks for dropping some knowledge on us Hunka!!
Funny how many Christians know so little about the actual content of their own freakin' book man.


reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 12:06 PM by mastermind77
Wouldn't it be ironic that the generation of turning away from the church would be the violent ones not the ones they call sinners? I mean how ironic that God, a creature they claim loudly would allow subtle terrorism and fascsism in a land that decided pleasing God was secondary to ruling the world. What if this God is really just kind of uber everything yet average but detailed? Kind of like a know everything, since we are fragments of him/her/it - it only makes sense to me.

And why would a God, A: need to proclaim loudly his godhood?
B: Make something then oppress it with fear?
C: Destroy and manipulate?

Sounds all too human if you ask me. If we are in his image, its certainly not our shapely pudge dripping from these mangled bones. Its a motion invisible to the eye. A pattern and construct found by Tesla and used to show that just using the mathematical logic and a lot of relaxation near nature can release what you already know. That is Jesus, That is Buddha, That is sidhartha. That should be everyone. Wouldn't it be funny if humanity needed to be the harmony that the earth needed during these times. Meaning we are creating our own spiritual vortex and end. Through apathy, mockery, classism, and false dogma ex machina.

I dont think when God states that in the bible : "sleeping with a man as one sleeps with a woman is detestable." That sounds like a human opinion, why would a God who created the sexes, and nature which lacks perfection, then tell it to not do something..not logical. Not practical.. lacking all what we would state are properties of Godhood.

In my opinion, since the world is so ful lof them. Would be a system where God is outside and we are inside. God uses a psychic interface to ping the universe, sending out signals of maintanence and repair, we interpolate them in our psyche through action and progress through time. Our punishment for being us? Or a gift of being outside infinty, a gift to be respected?

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reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 12:18 PM by mpriebe81
reply to post by CuriousSkeptic



Yeah you make a great point here! If you look at this issue with the mindset of one of these hardcore Christians, they may actually be advertising the book, thereby giving it a larger audience, which in turn may actually create more evil homosexuals in the long run!!

Any good Christian will tell you, if you read a book about gays, you are more likely to become gay.

Ridiculous Christians.


reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 12:42 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by The All Seeing I


First I can see how their collective perception is being damaged as is their sense of mental well-being as they struggle to come to terms with a world that no longer views their peculiar indoctrinated morality as a guide stick anymore.

I can certainly appreciate how they feel that the loss of political power and prestige that fall from grace entails.

This further illustrates how religious movements are not about spirituality but about perpetuating class struggles and political power.

The belief that a loving homosexual or lesbian is a moral and physical danger to society is an incredibly false, politically self-serving one that in and of itself represents a far greater danger than any real risks associated with alternative sexuality.

In reality the sensitive and sensual nature of such alternative thinking and inclined people is often one that lends itself to self awareness in self and others, an appreciation for esthetic beauty and increased empathy and consideration for all peoples faced with the stigmas and adversities of overcoming and persevering in overcoming the adversities and hardships in a world were ‘scarcity’ of resources ranging from food and water to justice is perpetuated by the wanton greed of the ruling class that uses religious morality to justify and quantify its own shortcomings and crimes.

Yet on a deeper and even more fundamental level here in the United States of America whose first and founding citizens sought refuge and quality of life under ‘Nature’s’ G-d and not Rome’s version of a Hebrew G-d, Mother Nature herself often exerts a power that is not entirely independent of false and manufactured religious doctrines and dogmas but is likewise tasked with trying to maintain a natural balance in the greater ecosystem that the vanity of humankind has tried to supersede at times to more often than not disastrous and harmful consequences.

Humankind for all it’s ‘collective’ brilliance and wisdom is despite that a primal animal species who by Nature’s insistence is hardwired to propagate for its own ensured survival.

Naturally as opposed to morally, propagation takes on many forms through primal impulses to the human’s sexual drive and urges.

Yet Nature in its wisdom as opposed to mythical deities formulated by humankind is always tasked with keeping a balance for the overall well being and viability of the ecosystem.

An over bred species no longer becomes constructive to the natural ecosystem but destructive in its parasitical nature as it uses up the ecosystems natural resources, plant, animal, and mineral, in excessive dosages.

One of Natures cures to slow down and correct this process is something a little more user friendly than war, and it’s called sexuality.

Nature itself will curb the primal desire to copulate for the sole purpose of now excessive propagation as primal urges for social herd acceptance then change into homosexuality, lesbian, and a-sexual tendencies to help reduce the excessive and parasitical destructive numbers.

For those so naïve as to think Nature does not have this power, there are several recent examples in the animal and marine life kingdoms were species hunted and fished to near extinction by humans that no longer have sufficient numbers to reproduce through a traditional mating process have been mutating and becoming self reproductive creatures that no longer require a mate to create the fertilization process to recreate itself.

Our forefathers were wise enough to found this nation under ‘Nature’s G-d’, it might serve humankind well to begin to understand there is nothing natural about a vein, jealous, and vengeful G-d as defined by Abraham through humans who imagine what Abraham defined that G-d to be and argue about it excessively and violently for political power and ends.


reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 12:45 PM by mpriebe81
reply to post by Fromabove



Gay extremist agenda??? You mean marching down the street with a big rainbow flag and holding hands in *shudder* public? I'll have to ask my gay friends about their "extremist agenda", as I have yet to hear about a gaybomb going off anywhere.

As for the other person who just stated that calling gay marriage a marriage is like "smoking crack on the altar", that is a pretty ridiculous comparison if you ask me. The institution of marriage in and of itself is a joke nowadays, as more than half of all marriages end up divorce. Sacred institution??? I think not.


reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 01:07 PM by Witness2008
reply to post by Fromabove



The "Gay extremist agenda" would be what exactly?

I see an eventual acceptance of Gays by the christian community when the christian community finally recognizes the rights of women.

The bible is a work of fiction with not one iota of anything substantial to back the claim of it being "God inspired". The bible does however inspire the hob-goblins of small minds.
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