posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 05:59 PM
I want to go back to some other thoughts that I posted earlier. I will repost in part here because I don't know how to link it.
My information comes from a series of books called “Gnosis” by a man named Boris Mouravieff. He was a close friend of Ouspensky and knew
Gurdjieff. (sp). You might want to look these men up as they taught a veiled version of the mysteries that have long been withheld except to certain
Mouravieff states that there were a race he identifies as preadamic humans before the creation of the adamic race which received the breath of life
(or soul) from god (I make this a little g god because I am a seeker here and don't much believe there that the revered god of christianity is the
true God). According to him the preadamic race mixed with the adamic race, thus the sons of god saw the daughters of man, that they were fair and took
of them... Also, according to Mouravieff, the original adamic man was androgynous. ( me here...This would be like the angels. Remember, we are going
on a perception of Angels by an ancient people and have no real facts to say they were purely spiritual beings. And even if they were, maybe some of
us are inhabited by their spirit...soul).
I must mention that the preadamics are believed to not reincarnate. Another way of stating this is that it is souled and unsouled beings living on
I will quote in part
"Adam lost consciousness of his real "I" (spiritual communication) and fell from the Eden that was his original condition into the same condition
as the pre-adamics...The two humanities, coming from the two different creative processes, later mingled on the level of organic life on earth...From
then on, the coexistence of these two human types, and the competition that was the result of this, became the norm. Now, 'as the children of this
world are in their generation more able than the children of light'(Luke 16.8 after the Slavonic text) we can see that throughout the centuries, even
in our own day, adamics in their post-fall condition, have been and are generally in an inferior position to the pre-adamics".
My thoughts here...I would equate pre-adamic with someone akin to psychopaths and probably many which would be much less obvious to us. (I say us
because I really don't think we would be searching otherwise. Still, in the end it doesn't matter as we are what we are and can not change
Now from The Secret History of the World by Mark Booth.
"We have suggested that the secret history of the creastion shadows the scientific history of creation in intriguing ways. We have just seen, for
example, how a purely minera stage of existence has been followed by a primitive plant stage, followed by an era of more complex plants. But there is
a vital difference I must draw to your attention. In the secret history not only is it true to say that what eventually evolved into human life
passed through a vegetable stage, but the vegatable element remains an essential part of the human being today.
Esoteric thought all over the world is concerned with the subtle energies that flow round this vegetable part of the body and also with the
'flower's' on the tree, the chakras which operate, as we shall see, as the organs of perception...feeding the waves of light and warmth radiating
from the sun is the chakra of the solar plexus...
Awareness of this vegetable element in the human body has remained greatest among the peoples of China and Japan. In Chinese medicine the energetic
flow of this vegetable life force, call chi, is understood to animate the body...."
So was the intake of the fruit in the garden something that actually cut us off from the spirit or original life force? Or is it something we can no
longer access? Or do we just wait, as per the dna info from Jakes51, and just let it happen when and if it does.
There are other thoughts I have had related to the fall and the Sons of God with the daughters of men etc but it will have to wait until later. I
need to refocus.
Thoughts and questions are appreciated.