Originally posted by smallpeeps
Well, I've been meditating probably an hour a day for the last few weeks and I have not yet been able to astrally project but here's what I can describe and maybe someone can assist me in understanding:

That's great! Keep it up!

Curiously, when I felt this recently, I also sensed a man and a woman about fifteen feet to my left who were smiling and seemed to want to encourage me to project. I have no idea who that couple was, but that image popped into my head very clearly before I lost them.

I have had this happen too. Except I did not get a clear view of them. My astral sight is beginning to kick in now when I am well-relaxed, or preparing to try to project. But it is not very strong yet, and all I can do see faint traces or outlines of things. Its happened a couple of times that I have seen/sensed entities nearby while trying to project. I can't see clearly enough to see who or what they are, but the vibe I get from them is that they are interested in what I am doing.

I felt a distinct pulling sensation, but it seems to break down in my shoulders. My hands grip the ball and my arms follow, by my torso does not want to release. Weird, eh?

I think this is a very common experience, and as far as I know, the parts of your body that seem to snag when you attempt an exit are parts which still hold too much tension.
When I was first told this, it immediately made sense to me because what is physical tension, after all, but the mind clenching to a part of the body? Any knots of tension or stress are like focal points from which the mind cannot release itself, and they represent an expenditure of energy that could otherwise be used differently (in this case to increase the power and versatility of your projection body.
The shoulders and torso are THE most common store houses for stress in our day and age. I share this problem with you! I think you will find it greatly beneficial if you seek out some stretches or yoga poses that release tension in the shoulders and back, and open the torso. You will feel benefits after only a few days of such stretches.

Is it 'cheating' if I am using my memory to visualize myself? For example, I am sitting there in my chair, and my mind says, "Well heck, if you want to be on the other side of the room and looking at yourself, then just imagine it by building up a picture in your mind of you sitting in this chair." I will then do so, remembering the color of my clothes, the look of the room, etc. I can build up a very clear picture of me sitting in the chair and as if I am standing across the room, but I feel like I am cheating by using my memory. I'm not 'seeing' it so much as I am 'building' it. Does this make sense? Is there anything to be gained from this action?

This certainly is not cheating, and yes, I believe it to be beneficial. Part of learning to project is the process of loosening your lifelong habit of feeling locked inside your body. These exercises in imagination are perfect for this loosening.
Here is a fun suggestion for you, and it is one that you can do at any time during the day...
Why not imagine yourself to be soaring around, or squeazing behind pieces of furniture, or shrinking to the size of insect, down into the jubgle of a lawn, or growing so that you can see the shores of another continent across the ocean... and why not do this A LOT during the course of a day, whenever you are bored, or waiting for something, for instance.

I have found that not only is this very fun, but it becomes far easier with practice to simultaneously experience being in your body, and being at another vantage point. Developing the ability to sustain this duality will certainly help you find that 'zone' again when you consciously attempt a projection!

I have a meditation practice which you are probably familiar with: one to develop focus. One sits in front of an object at eye level, and focuses on that object and nothing else, without thinking about the object or anything else: just trying to hold the sensory input of that object alone in one's mind. Very good for developing stability of the mind.
Well in relation to what we are discussing, I have added something to this meditation which feels very powerful when I can do it succesfully. While holding the object firmly before my eyes, I simultaneously IMAGINE the object. It is the strangest sensation to be staring at an object and to be imagining it at the very same time, and when you try it, I think you will sense intuitively that it is beneficial for projection.
For one, I think you will find that although the object is right in front of you and the sole focus of your eyes, the imagined version of it will be slightly different in subtle ways, and it will have a different feel to it: like a different energy signature. What's more, the surroundings of your imaginary object may very well be quite different to the surroundings of your room in which you are sitting with the real object. This happens spontaneously, with no effort to imagine a different set of surroundings, and there is often the feeling that the object you are focusing on, and the one you are imagining, overlap each other where two worlds overlap, and can be a gateway to this astral version of your location. I often get the feeling that if I were to gently shift my focus in the right way, I might start looking around the room that surrounds the imaginary object, and perhaps even stand up in it and go for a stroll. This would, of course, defeat the purpose of the meditation, which is to maintain the focus on the object, however...

Give it a try and tell me what you think.

U.

Wow, thanks for the tips, U! Very helpful indeed!

What you mention about tension in the chest is probably true. I find it difficult to totally 'forget' about my breathing process. I find my breath quickening at times and that draws my concentration back into the flesh, so to speak. I'll try your suggestions.

I have a meditation practice which you are probably familiar with: one to develop focus. One sits in front of an object at eye level, and focuses on that object and nothing else, without thinking about the object or anything else: just trying to hold the sensory input of that object alone in one's mind. Very good for developing stability of the mind.

Yes, I will try this with the imagination excercise as you suggest. I have noticed that when I do this sort of concentration, I get a sort of 'tunnel-vision' in which everything on the periphery turns white and I can only see the object I am focusing on. It goes away when I stop focusing.

Here's another thing I notice: When I focus my energy, I can easily produce waves of what can only be described as 'ecstacy' that shoot through my brain. I have pushed this state to the max and when I do, my body shakes and my spine arches extremely. The sensation seems to ramp upward where the more I tense up, the tighter my muscles get and the more my back arches until I'm like a pretzel or something. I don't know what if any purpose this can serve other than feeling pleasurable. It's like the opposite of relaxtion though. It's like 'giving in' to some mental force.

Based on what I have felt so far, the pursuit of OOBE is the most interesting thing I've attempted. I find the practice itself very pleasurable. I hope to post my success here soon!

I have been trying and trying but nothing seems to work ... Can someone tell em how to make the vibrations come through my WHOLE body??? I only have them in my hands and legs..Any help appreciated ...

thanks!!

Well first you take a block of ice, and techincally stick it down your pants, you should be feeling vibration, soon after you do this technique, though i just call that shivering....j/k man

I dont know how it happens, for me it came naturally, for others, i dont know probably through clearing there minds and stuff, dont try to achieve, just believe, and things would probably come around for you

I have never heard of thie 'ice tecnique' before....

I will stick with meditation......but THANKS anyway.......

Last night was a GREAT OOBE night for me........

I concentrated on NOT allowing FEAR to have any hold in my mind...just to 'trust'.....to let go & let God.....to know all is well.

The 'noise' came to me and I went with it and POP there I am floating around in my bedroom again. I wanted to GO somewhere, and was being amused at myself. WHOOSH throught the ceiling, and into the stars again, with lots of 'just flyin around'. Then I came back.
I was being rather bummed that nothing is getting accomplished, like going to the moon or Egypt...so I decided to get this going again.
POP out I come again, and this time I can hear a 'voice'......I thought it was the voice of my origonal YANKER. Thinking this, I was attempting to 'help' in whatever way I could, it seamed this 'voice' was needing comfort of some kind. I invited them to come with me, and lets just go flying, so we did.
Out to the stars again, and this time with another being, so I am not so alone this time. After a bit of flying, this 'other' being left for whatever adventures they had in mind for themselves.
I thought to go to 'visit' friends in Moab Utah.......and just found myself rushing around in the stars. I decided to search for my 'silver cord' and yup there it was allright, nice and shiney! It was very pretty really! I also noticed quite a golden glow that was eminating in my heart area, and was thinking I must be quite a bright thing to other observers. I felt I had enough and wanted to actually sleep, and it was a quick trip back to my room and into my body.
I am SO POSITIVE that ALL falling dreams, are just the return of the soul to the body after OOBE, because the sensation is ~EXACTLY the SAME~ when I am returning to my body. So if you think you don't OOBE, think again....I think all humans do this unconsiously.

The more you try to grasp hold of water, the less you will have in your hand. Hold your hand open in the water, and you hold the entire ocean.


Thank you for this thread. Please continue with the miute details of gently encouraging an OOBE.

Hi Alternative Traveler!
I want to extend the offer of 'adopting' you in the manner of ATS....to help you better understand the owrkings of the site.....u2u me if your interested.


Today I took a nap...and had my FIRST daytime OOBE! it was differant in that there was more light, and it seamed harder for me to focus on indavidual shapes and solid itams..........KEWL though!
I want to do MORE of this in daylight so I can get used to the visual.

Hi rivergoddess
, since my last post in this thread i have managed to have 3 OBE's ! all in the daytime mind you around 10 - 11 am, its the only time i seem to have them... i have also wrote a kind of an OBE log but its too long to post here... but i would like to get some opinions of my projections if anyones intrested to read them?

Hello all, this is my first post and i was wondering if you could help me?
ive been trying for a while and without trying anything else i find that sometimes when i go to bed after a while my im almost asleep but my mind is totaly awake and i feel quite light, however this only happens occasionly could you give me some tips on how to consiously reach this state and then actually project myself or if anyone is willing to come and help me get out u2u me! thanks in advance for any advice!

-Aldur

Kewl Freedom! good job!


Well Aldur...I know this thread is a TAD LONG.....but there are posted within the pages of this very thread some of the most excellant OOBE tecniques I have ever read. I am practicing some of them to good measure.
Go backward in this thread and find the SUGGESTION posts that come from all corners of the globe! good stuff that can help you!

Hi there everyone, i have read this topic intesively.... i will most probally go over it a couple of times to make sure i havent missed anyhting.

i dont know if i am allowed to do this, but i will remove it if i am not.

I am starting a research project called:

The Astral Projection and Astral Plane Research Project.

There has been alot of people interested in this topic and i thought it would be good to do some research on so everybody on the forum can have easy access to lots of information.

If any of you 'dedicated' people out there are willing enough to join the research project U2U me.

Thanks in advance!!

Blessed Be

[edit on 6/3/2005 by wyatt43]

if u want an obe and remember it then here are some steps to follow that have worked wonders for my self......

1. You need to be very very relaxed and almost to the point of sleeping.
if you can meditate and relax u can do this..

2. focus on getting out of your body and look at your body lying in the bed. Look at your face and the clothes you are wearing. feel the floor as u walk on it. Go around your house and feel objects around your house while in this meditated trance.

3. Now go to a mirror and look at your self and see your face. Its kinda hard to do but once you do it youll be amazed at the results. Keep looking at yourself in the mirror and eventually youll jump out of your body and start astral projecting. Its the fastest way that ive found. Ive been practicing for 4 years now.


Get back to me and tell me what u think......Brotherhood22

My mother talk to me of a 'mirror tecnique'

She says she sits at her vanity and stares into the glass and 'pops out'......she can see herself sitting there.





Hi Wyatt welcome to the thread..........Merry Meet.

Hi there,
i am new to this thread and i was just wondering if:

1. It was possible to meditate while in the astral plane, and

2. What is the most effective way to meditate, as i really have trouble concentrating.

Lots of thanks in advance.

Last night i had a very short OOBE. At least I think it was.

As I was falling to sleep.. my body passed into sleep mode but I was still awake in the mind. A ringing and the sound of the wind then came into my ears, I kind of ignored it, but then i felt myself being lifted up.

My body was totally paralysed at this point, but I was looking at myself from just above my bed, I think my feet were still in my body, but that’s it. I couldn’t quite let go of my body, but When i saw myself when i was asleep, I kind of panicked thinking - wait a second, I'm not in my body, am I dead? Am i having an OOBE? I was looking at my body and became worried that something bad might happen to it while i was 'out', when that feeling set in I went back into my body and became un-paralysed shortly after.

It was very cool, but I was afraid for my body!

Anyone have any comments on this?

have binueral beats helped anyone here achieve AP? I have trouble getting into trance state because I live in a noisy place.

i have been tryin astrally project(i normally call it that but every one else here calls it OOBE so i just wanna fit in) i have always been interested in "OOBE,s" iv been tryin for bout eight months but nothing i recently feeling like iv been getting close like feeling my mind seperate and my body becoming numb......

So i will continue to try but more advise is always nice ..... I have been reading the thread(well i only read to page five and skipped....to ten ) as i was recommended to when looking for help over the net(not really just over ATS )
oh and goddess could you u2u me your msn messenger so i can talk to u instantly

also im only 14 so would that be part of the problem cause maybe adults mind,s are more "connected" or something

Is it easier to "OOBE" if your a girl/women(whatever ya wonna be called:cool because they use the left side of their brain or right side or whatever side they actually "DO" use

[edit on 23-3-2005 by elmojones3000]

I use to have a lot of OOBE's:
side effects:

sickness: you can start to lose connection with your body.
you can get sick, one woman I know got cancer, and when she quit it went away.

Possession: sometimes I whould have to fight demons who wanted my body, that is a horrible feeling of helplessness. One time I could not get back into my body!! It was then I realize just how important it is to me.

Loss of Energy: somehow over time it is draining.

Desire to live in that world, rather than this one.

Not, all of the "good" beings are good.
Some being would start taking me out without permission, after I got use to oobe's, so it was easy for them.

Advanced beings can change form, to look good. Some of them attacked me.

It seems to mess up the mind body connection after awhile, then I could not stop it. lost feeling in some parts of my body.

Yes, it was a lot of fun at first, really fun, but in the end it became a problem, that was not worth it. Plus, I alway's felt that there was something not right about it, never have figured that part out. Like it was spiritbeings(demons) were the haveing the oobe and I was seeing, all of this with their eyes not mine, as if I never left my body and it was somebody's game being played on me. Because, when I would do test, the test would fail. I had I closet door, that would be open, but in the oobe state it would be closed, other tests like this. Which led me to question the whole thing. After two years I stopped, never to return.